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I feel sorry for paedophiles

Because you can't help who you're sexually attracted to.
Let's get it out straight away that I obviously think it's sick if a paedophike acts on their attraction in any way, bc desire is no justification for literally ruining people's lives.
BUT they can't help the attraction?? I know it's uncomfortable to think about but it does make sense.. and some of them might hate themselves even more than society does. I just think it's a bad lot in life :/

Thoughts?

Reply 1

username2345291

I kinda get what you mean. I feel sorry for the ones who never act on their attraction. Being attracted to minors is something you can’t help and society doesn’t usually make the distinction between having attraction and actually abusing someone :/

Pedophiles who act on the urges are a very different story though.

Reply 2

Trust Orang

Original post by Curiousstudent03

You are very compassionate, and this level of bravery is inspiring at a time where you have to watch what you say. Obviously, nobody wants kids to get hurt, so I wouldn't think that even despite the clickbait title.

Reply 3

Just my opinion

I agree they can't help it but they are sick individuals.
They should be encouraged to come forward and volunteer for chemical castration.
This could be done without exposing them as potential paedophiles in the community.
Giving up your sex drive is something I would certainly want to do if I was sexually attracted to children around me.

Reply 4

Kaffee_1998

Original post by Curiousstudent03

Don’t care. The safety of children is paramount. If medical treatment is available fine but otherwise but them in a hole

Reply 5

randomsheep11

Original post by Kaffee_1998

Don’t care. The safety of children is paramount. If medical treatment is available fine but otherwise but them in a hole

Well I think that's sort of extreme. People probably had a similar stance on gay people back in the day.

No one can help who they're sexually attracted to. Surely encouraging more paedophiles to get help would be better than isolating them from society. How can pushing them to side be better than reaching out to them to help them? If they feel isolated from society, I believe they may be more susceptible to commiting a crime; just like any other criminals imo.

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EDIT: Fixed some appalling grammar problems :3

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Reply 6

Kaffee_1998

Original post by randomsheep11

EDIT: Fixed some appalling grammar problems :3

Sorry to say I have no sympathy. As I said if there's proven medical treatment available then great otherwise nope

Reply 7

Just my opinion

The Overton window of sexuality is moving wider everyday. No surprise that the likes of Salon (and another left wing outlet I can't recall) have already had highly sympathetic pieces on it.
Up next " Beastiality, is true love of you pets really that wrong?" followed by "Incest, if you are careful about contraception is it bigotry to condemn it?"

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Reply 8

Studentboy783

I don’t think your a true pedo if you don’t act on your attraction in any way. Those who act on it and are proud of it are just sick. But if they have the problem and aren’t proud of it (not talking ashamed just it’s not something they take major pride in) then I do feel sorry for them as it’s a mental health issue which they can’t control.

Reply 9

Waldorf67

The trouble is, a very small proportion would not act on their urges in any way.

Reply 10

Just my opinion

Naively I am often shocked how many of them seem to think as long as they aren't assaulting children ITRW, consuming kiddy porn is a victimless crime. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Reply 11

Andrew97

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This is a brave thread. I can see the point the OP is making.

Reply 12

randomsheep11

Original post by Kaffee_1998

Sorry to say I have no sympathy. As I said if there's proven medical treatment available then great otherwise nope

Well there's no treatment for homosexuality. When being gay was illegal and completely unnacceptable in society, people didn't care for them either. Ofc, I'm not for legalising paedophilia, but the fact is that pedos are humans despite their sexuality. I'm sure gay men in the 1700s were treated appalingly too, the idea of having sex with another man was probably nearly as bad with having sex with a child in those days.

Maybe you have some personal things going on where paedophilia has affected you. If so, that's really really sad. But regardless, people with abnormal sexual desires need to be able to access support, counselling etc.

You can't cure paedophilia, only control it.

I mean, rehab for drug issues exists for a reason. Alcoholics Anonymous exists.

Alcoholics and "druggies" rightfully have resources in place to help monitor and control their addictions. People with abnormal sexual attractions should have access to similar systems to manage their problems.

Reply 13

Kaffee_1998

Original post by randomsheep11

Look I get where your coming from.

But for me at least some things cross the line. And frankly whether it’s within their control or not is irrelevant.

They pose a threat to children. That’s a line in the sand as far as I’m concerned and I have zero sympathy for their problems. All this care and counselling is all well and good but how far would it go to ensure that they will never pose a threat? If a method was developed and proved effective then I’d be for it.

Until that time though isolate them, intern them, throw them in a cage I don’t care. It’s harsh but it’s what I believe.

Reply 14

luciferstann

I do not agree with your belief that people cannot control their urges. Whether you pose a threat or not, it comes down to if you make the choice to act on what you know is wrong. Additionally, whether it is within their control or not is totally relevant; why would we punish people for having mental issues they did not choose to have. You sound really ignorant to say that people should be isolated or thrown in a cage simply for having undesired thoughts. Everyone can pose a threat to children, whether it be deranged gunmen, psychopathic murderers, or pedophiles, or even your average person who fantasizes about punching an annoying kid on the train. Here's the thing though, owing a gun doesn't disallow you to be a normal member of society, nor do people who fantasize about hitting or killing people. So why would having undesired thoughts (that we can agree are atrocious) mean you don't have rights to live a normal and productive life. Pedophilia does not = molestation. Maybe if you had the mental acuity to even ponder what it would be like to live such an uncomfortable life, you would be able to be a little sympathetic...but clearly you aren't that mature and cannot imagine reality outside of your own experiences. Your logic is trash, and I think I'd rather be friends with a pedophile because at least they would be able to show some compassion and critical thinking ability.