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'Three UK universities on the brink of bankruptcy'

Why do i get the feeling that these 'universities' are more likely than not, universities in name only and other than that not worth the paper theyre written on?

Reply 81

theo1jinx

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Sadly bangor is one of them

Reply 82

PQ

Clearing and Applications Advisor

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Original post by theo1jinx

Sadly bangor is one of them

Bangor isn’t in the north west of England or on the south coast.

There’s a lot of problems with Welsh university funding at the moment (like happened in NI a few years ago). Because of the Welsh funding model and the additional powers of HEFCW students in Wales have a lot more protection than students at the English universities that are struggling

Reply 83

username1738683

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In other news, Laura Ashley are about to close 40 stores in the UK. Lack of customers and bad financial management.

Reply 84

swanseajack1

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There are issues regarding university funding in Wales. Bangor, Aberystwyth and Lampeter are all extremely remote without major bases of population. Aber has about 20,000 and Lampeter 3000 which makes it difficult to attract students. Also the Welsh government gives the same funding whether students study in Wales or England unlike Scotland which has a more favourable fee systtem if you study in Scotland. There has been a 6.5% reduction in applications to Welsh universities this year. The Welsh universities rank lowly compared to English ones which is another factor

Reply 85

PQ

Clearing and Applications Advisor

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Original post by swanseajack1

There are issues regarding university funding in Wales. Bangor, Aberystwyth and Lampeter are all extremely remote without major bases of population. Aber has about 20,000 and Lampeter 3000 which makes it difficult to attract students. Also the Welsh government gives the same funding whether students study in Wales or England unlike Scotland which has a more favourable fee systtem if you study in Scotland. There has been a 6.5% reduction in applications to Welsh universities this year. The Welsh universities rank lowly compared to English ones which is another factor

https://wonkhe.com/job/director-of-policy-and-funding/
:flute:

Reply 86

theo1jinx

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Original post by swanseajack1

There are issues regarding university funding in Wales. Bangor, Aberystwyth and Lampeter are all extremely remote without major bases of population. Aber has about 20,000 and Lampeter 3000 which makes it difficult to attract students. Also the Welsh government gives the same funding whether students study in Wales or England unlike Scotland which has a more favourable fee systtem if you study in Scotland. There has been a 6.5% reduction in applications to Welsh universities this year. The Welsh universities rank lowly compared to English ones which is another factor

Bangor's been mismanaged to the bone, their vice-chancellor for 9 years now had appointed his wife in an very highly paying position and used up to half a million of university endorsements to buy and renovate his house resulting to huge budget cuts to stay afloat. Now he is getting retired 5 months early this december. This guy almost sank Maynooth Uni before that, he should spend the rest of his life in jail if there is still a bit of justice in this world.

Reply 87

LawManc

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There are around 130 universities in the UK. That is probably around fifty more than it actually needs. Swansea had two and even Wrexham has one. Reductio ad absurdum.
We also, now have ridiculous former Catholic teaching colleges like Leeds Trinity and Newman in Godforsaken places to add to the sorry mix.

Factor 2: Demographics. As was predicted more than twenty years ago, working class families are having fewer children. This has an inevitable impact on those institutions that take in working class students. Clue: Not Russell Group.

Factor 3: Statistically you will now be better off financially leaving school at 16 and getting a job than in having an arts degree (BA). This had been the for almost a decade now. "You can fool some of the people, some of the time,...."

Factor 4: Covid-19 and the disappearance of international students.

As for the 3. Here is a clue. South-Coast: SS & F. North-West: B.

Reply 88

Joinedup

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Original post by LawManc

There are around 130 universities in the UK. That is probably around fifty more than it actually needs. Swansea had two and even Wrexham has one. Reductio ad absurdum.
We also, now have ridiculous former Catholic teaching colleges like Leeds Trinity and Newman in Godforsaken places to add to the sorry mix.

Factor 2: Demographics. As was predicted more than twenty years ago, working class families are having fewer children. This has an inevitable impact on those institutions that take in working class students. Clue: Not Russell Group.

Factor 3: Statistically you will now be better off financially leaving school at 16 and getting a job than in having an arts degree (BA). This had been the for almost a decade now. "You can fool some of the people, some of the time,...."

Factor 4: Covid-19 and the disappearance of international students.

As for the 3. Here is a clue. South-Coast: SS & F. North-West: B.

I'm pretty sure the Russell Group unis admit lots of working class students :rolleyes:

Scandal prone alternative providers have already been allowed to collapse with little fanfare https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49181654

Also worthy of note is that ethnic minority families are having the most kids... and a lot of those families seem to strongly prefer their children to live at home and study at a local uni

Reply 89

LawManc

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Original post by Joinedup

I'm pretty sure the Russell Group unis admit lots of working class students :rolleyes:

Scandal prone alternative providers have already been allowed to collapse with little fanfare https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-49181654

Also worthy of note is that ethnic minority families are having the most kids... and a lot of those families seem to strongly prefer their children to live at home and study at a local uni

Thanks. You make some telling points.

You are, of course, quite right in stating that Russell Group universities admit C2/D students. Of course they do. Yet they are not their 'bread and butter.' Just compare the intake of, say, Exeter with that of Liverpool John Moores.

Universities have gone to the wall. But you ain't seen nothin' yet!!

And yes, you make a very valid point with regard to ethnic minorities. Whilst the indiginous working class population are having fewer children, those in the Polish community, for example, have bucked the trend. You are also quite correct in stating that C2/D students, particularly from ethnic minorities, tend to overlook the fact that their local university is fourth rate and send their children there regardless. Indeed, such fourth rate institutions only survive because of this mentality. Yet how long will people continue to think in this way?

Thank you for expressing your valid points.

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Reply 90

The RAR

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Any university that favours international students over home students should go bankrupt imo, they are more interested in money than giving education and opportunities to the young people in this country.

'Three UK universities on the brink of bankruptcy'

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