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Israel or Palestine?

Know this thread will probably just get deleted but let me put my points
Palestine has had a huge injustice by the Israelis.
It is incredulous to believe how they have had effectively an ethnic cleansing in their own state by a foreign government and denied the right to actually even exist, through means of a passport.

Israel's current government is racist
Nethanyu doesn't want any Arab MPs and wants Arabic removed from his parliament.

At the same time, let's face it, if Israel was under Palestine's control, it would be a very different place, in terms of it would probably have little freedom for citizens - probably become the next Iran or somewhere.

Israel has the right to defend itself, but shooting unarmed protestors and medics is unacceptable

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Demographics are not in Israel's long term favour, the issue should clear itself up eventually.
palestine but the way palestine fighting will not benefit them
Neither.
Palestine.
Original post by AbuDujana
palestine but the way palestine fighting will not benefit them


What would the best way then.
Original post by Professional G
What would the best way then.


in the name of islam, not making a giant group to fight in the name of nationalism or for socialism baathism whatever
Reply 7
Neither.
Both sides (the government) don't want peace, they earn money, status and reputation because of the war. The regular citizens suffer from it, especially in Gaza.
Reply 8
Original post by Kathy89
Neither.
Both sides (the government) don't want peace, they earn money, status and reputation because of the war. The regular citizens suffer from it, especially in Gaza.

I'm not sure that this thread is addressed to Israelis. Anyway, don't forget that the government in Israel is elected by "the regular citizens".
Both, under secure borders. Without a government such as Netanyahu in Israel or Hamas in Palestine.
Reply 10
The way I see it, Israel is effectively performing an ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. I always suspected it, but having watched a documentary where they visited Gaza, the laws they impose are designed to cripple their economy. I know its tough for Israel, but the treatment of Palestinians in unacceptable. At the same time Palestinian groups like hamas should step down, because that way blockades into Gaza are more likely to be stopped
Reply 12
They're not football teams. I think the only reasonable response in all of this is to support both nations against some of the ******s who seem to get a kick out of prolonging conflict.

Original post by qwertyK
Know this thread will probably just get deleted but let me put my points
Palestine has had a huge injustice by the Israelis.
It is incredulous to believe how they have had effectively an ethnic cleansing in their own state by a foreign government and denied the right to actually even exist, through means of a passport.


I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. Are you suggesting that the Palestinian Territories should be annexed into Israel proper and the people made Israeli citizens? I'm not sure anyone (barring perhaps some at the fringes of Zionism) want that. The Palestinian Territories are not part of Israel.

Israel's current government is racist
Nethanyu doesn't want any Arab MPs and wants Arabic removed from his parliament.


I think this is probably a pretty cheap shot derived from a crappy article somewhere on the internet. The suggestion that somehow Arabic's position in Israel is somehow being undermine is expressly contradicted in law.
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Palestine of course
Original post by qwertyK
Know this thread will probably just get deleted but let me put my points
Palestine has had a huge injustice by the Israelis.
It is incredulous to believe how they have had effectively an ethnic cleansing in their own state by a foreign government and denied the right to actually even exist, through means of a passport.

Israel's current government is racist
Nethanyu doesn't want any Arab MPs and wants Arabic removed from his parliament.

At the same time, let's face it, if Israel was under Palestine's control, it would be a very different place, in terms of it would probably have little freedom for citizens - probably become the next Iran or somewhere.

Israel has the right to defend itself, but shooting unarmed protestors and medics is unacceptable


Iran the country with the longest written history in the world produce the first woman Field Medal winner. Produces thousand of science papers a year and one best film industry in the world. The highest number of women working in science and having PHDs. Were there synagogues, Mosques, churches and Zoroastrian temples.
Israel all day. They allow Palestinians to live among them while Jews are not welcome in Palestine without threat of violence. They bring countless valuable research and contribute more intellectual property than the rest of the middle east combined.

Israel could wipe Palestine off the map very quickly if they wanted. So if you're asking which of the peoples are of better moral standing. Just ask yourself how long the Jews would last if that same power was held by the Palestinians. /thread
Reply 16
Original post by admonit
I'm not sure that this thread is addressed to Israelis. Anyway, don't forget that the government in Israel is elected by "the regular citizens".


Except the large number of Arabs who are barred from voting of course.
Reply 17
Original post by Jebedee
Israel all day. They allow Palestinians to live among them while Jews are not welcome in Palestine without threat of violence. They bring countless valuable research and contribute more intellectual property than the rest of the middle east combined.

Lol, that says it all really.
Also you're wrong on the last count. Iran, for an example, is one of the biggest publishers of scientific research [in certain areas] in the world.

Israel could wipe Palestine off the map very quickly if they wanted. So if you're asking which of the peoples are of better moral standing. Just ask yourself how long the Jews would last if that same power was held by the Palestinians. /thread

They've already done that?
Equally how does saying that Israel can commit genocide help your "case"?
Original post by Napp
Lol, that says it all really.
Also you're wrong on the last count. Iran, for an example, is one of the biggest publishers of scientific research [in certain areas] in the world.

They've already done that?
Equally how does saying that Israel can commit genocide help your "case"?

Iran are Persians and have a history of scientific insight until that was stopped by the Arabs. So you can't use them to paint Palestinians in a positive light. If anything you prove the opposite.

Israel are capable of a genocide on the Palestinians but chose not to. Could you say the Palestinians would hold equal restraint in the same position?
Hate both, nuke em.

Original post by DrMikeHuntHertz
Demographics are not in Israel's long term favour, the issue should clear itself up eventually.

Actually Israeli-Jewish fertility rates are sky high too. Over 3.

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