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(Original post by NotNotBatman)
If we have the planar system given by the ODEs
and we let
then
obtaining a solution;
but what I don't understand is how the trajectory of the system is determined by the eigenvectors of M.
If we have the planar system given by the ODEs


and we let

then

obtaining a solution;

but what I don't understand is how the trajectory of the system is determined by the eigenvectors of M.


We have that:

where the first eq is (*) and second is (**)
Take the first eq, and differentiate with respect to... time

Then we get it as

We sub in


From (*) we also get that


Clearly, this is a second order ODE which has solutions

with


which is precisely the equation for the eigenvalues of the matrix

So going from there, you'd find that the eigenvector of the matrix



Indeed, we get the same when we do the process for


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(Original post by RDKGames)
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(Original post by NotNotBatman)
..
..





If you have a spanning set of eigenvectors


We can then apply the same argument to find:

Critically, the decomposition of x into eigenvectors at t=0 determines the future evolution of the system.
Edit: FWIW, when I actually need to *solve* a problem of this type, I'll generally do what RDK posted. It's less "elegant", but in my experience it's quicker than finding the eigenvectors and decomposing the initial x into a sum of eigenvectors.
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(Original post by RDKGames)
are linear in
, I'm assuming by what you've written?
We have that:

where the first eq is (*) and second is (**)
Take the first eq, and differentiate with respect to... time
, I suppose? Whatever the dot differentiation represents in your context.
Then we get it as
We sub in
from (**) and obtain
(***)
From (*) we also get that
and subbing it into (***) we get:

Clearly, this is a second order ODE which has solutions

with
satisfying its characteristic equation:

which is precisely the equation for the eigenvalues of the matrix
So going from there, you'd find that the eigenvector of the matrix
for
coincides with the trajectory
.
Indeed, we get the same when we do the process for
, and its particle path corresponds to the eigenvector with
.


We have that:

where the first eq is (*) and second is (**)
Take the first eq, and differentiate with respect to... time

Then we get it as

We sub in


From (*) we also get that


Clearly, this is a second order ODE which has solutions

with


which is precisely the equation for the eigenvalues of the matrix

So going from there, you'd find that the eigenvector of the matrix



Indeed, we get the same when we do the process for


(Original post by DFranklin)
I'm a little rusty on this, but this seems to give a good method for *calculating* the solution, while largely obscuring the whole reason we care about eigenvectors. (But as I say, I'm rusty, so feel free to correct me).
If you know
(and
) then for x of the form
we have
and so we find a solution of the form
. The point here is that for vectors in this direction, the matrix effectively behaves as a constant multiplier, making life much much easier.
If you have a spanning set of eigenvectors
then we can represent general x in the form
.
We can then apply the same argument to find:

Critically, the decomposition of x into eigenvectors at t=0 determines the future evolution of the system.
Edit: FWIW, when I actually need to *solve* a problem of this type, I'll generally do what RDK posted. It's less "elegant", but in my experience it's quicker than finding the eigenvectors and decomposing the initial x into a sum of eigenvectors.
I'm a little rusty on this, but this seems to give a good method for *calculating* the solution, while largely obscuring the whole reason we care about eigenvectors. (But as I say, I'm rusty, so feel free to correct me).
If you know





If you have a spanning set of eigenvectors


We can then apply the same argument to find:

Critically, the decomposition of x into eigenvectors at t=0 determines the future evolution of the system.
Edit: FWIW, when I actually need to *solve* a problem of this type, I'll generally do what RDK posted. It's less "elegant", but in my experience it's quicker than finding the eigenvectors and decomposing the initial x into a sum of eigenvectors.
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Thank you both for the explanations. Can a similar explanation be used for the Jacobian matrix in the linearisation of nonlinear systems ?
Thank you both for the explanations. Can a similar explanation be used for the Jacobian matrix in the linearisation of nonlinear systems ?
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(Original post by NotNotBatman)
Thank you both for the explanations. Can a similar explanation be used for the Jacobian matrix in the linearisation of nonlinear systems ?
Thank you both for the explanations. Can a similar explanation be used for the Jacobian matrix in the linearisation of nonlinear systems ?
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