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Looking at the FiiO E10k as it seems to be the only decent budget one. Would there be a difference between this and say

Creative Blaster Audigy Fx 5.1 PCIe Sound Card with SBX Pro Studio

Also was recommended monoprice headphones on here that were about 20 quid a few years ago and now theyre 35 but was looking at yamaha mt5

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-HPHM...01MRE646J?th=1

Really i want it for music more than gaming, not production just good listening.

Thx in advance.
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Looking at the FiiO E10k as it seems to be the only decent budget one. Would there be a difference between this and say

Creative Blaster Audigy Fx 5.1 PCIe Sound Card with SBX Pro Studio

Also was recommended monoprice headphones on here that were about 20 quid a few years ago and now theyre 35 but was looking at yamaha mt5

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-HPHM...01MRE646J?th=1

Really i want it for music more than gaming, not production just good listening.

Thx in advance.
You do not need a DAC/amp if you're spending that little on headphones, just devote your whole budget to a better pair of headphones. How much were you going to be spending in total?
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You do not need a DAC/amp if you're spending that little on headphones, just devote your whole budget to a better pair of headphones. How much were you going to be spending in total?
I am using asus onboard audio atm, I would use the spdif port but its reported to not be much better so I may just go for the soundcard and some decent headphones then.
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I am using asus onboard audio atm, I would use the spdif port but its reported to not be much better so I may just go for the soundcard and some decent headphones then.
To be more specific, sound cards are just DAC/amps that connect internally rather than externally. You do not need a DAC/amp or soundcard if you are spending this little on headphones, a £150 pair of headphones will sound better than an amped £90 pair even using onboard audio. You can then make those headphones sound better with an amp at a later date if you want to.

What's your overall budget?
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To be more specific, sound cards are just DAC/amps that connect internally rather than externally. You do not need a DAC/amp or soundcard if you are spending this little on headphones, a £150 pair of headphones will sound better than an amped £90 pair even using onboard audio. You can then make those headphones sound better with an amp at a later date if you want to.

What's your overall budget?
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Will they just be used at home or as a portable pair too?
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Will they just be used at home or as a portable pair too?
home, thx for your help btw im sure it was you who recommended them monoprice's still work jus the cushioning is ripped and sometimes i have to give em a whack as only one side works
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home, thx for your help btw im sure it was you who recommended them monoprice's still work jus the cushioning is ripped and sometimes i have to give em a whack as only one side works
Yep, that was probably me who recommended the Monoprice.

For £200 I would pick up a pair of AKG K712 Pro, excellent headphones that will scale up nicely with an amplifier at a later date.
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I am using asus onboard audio atm, I would use the spdif port but its reported to not be much better so I may just go for the soundcard and some decent headphones then.
Unless you're going to be mixing and mastering records of audiophile-level sound quality, onboard audio is good enough for listening to music and watching videos. Most people can't actually tell the difference anyway, as an audiophole myself, I'll happily say that most of us are simply snobs.

You could do much worse than getting something like, say Sennheiser HD 4.30 headphones (which I use regularly at home). The quality is perfectly good, and they include a microphone for calls or light recording.
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I'll happily say that most of us are simply snobs.
Pffft, you've clearly not got your system rigged up with £1000 interconnects, it's bottlenecking your whole experience!
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Pffft, you've clearly not got your system rigged up with £1000 interconnects, it's bottlenecking your whole experience!
:rolleyes:

My system is pretty good actually. The only thing is that my tape deck is an early 1970s Technics, rather than a Nakamichi Dragon, which obviously I'd rather have.

Still sounds amazing though.
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As others have said, don't bother with an external DAC.

For this type of use, I'd recommend the Sennheiser HD280 Pro, although it really depends on your budget, taste, and listening environment. I don't know what they cost in the UK (which may change the VFM) - they're around $100 in the US.
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Pffft, you've clearly not got your system rigged up with £1000 interconnects, it's bottlenecking your whole experience!
Not to mention those directional wires ..
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Unless you're going to be mixing and mastering records of audiophile-level sound quality, onboard audio is good enough for listening to music and watching videos. Most people can't actually tell the difference anyway, as an audiophole myself, I'll happily say that most of us are simply snobs.

You could do much worse than getting something like, say Sennheiser HD 4.30 headphones (which I use regularly at home). The quality is perfectly good, and they include a microphone for calls or light recording.
The onboard audio in current B350-F board is noticably worse than by 10 year old sound blaster audigy fx whiich is around 20 quid now
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The onboard audio in current B350-F board is noticably worse than by 10 year old sound blaster audigy fx whiich is around 20 quid now
That's a pity.
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