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I don't think we will.

There are two ways to get rid of the royal family. Firstly, they step down voluntarily. Thats not going to happen. The other is to have a revolution, as in France and Russia etc. Revolutions only happen when the country is in a really bad state. As the queen has virtually no real power, a revolution would not be able to gather enough force to get rid of her. So really, the best way of getting rid of the monarchy would be to give them more power, and then hope for a revolution. At this time, I can't see it happening!

So basically, in answer to the original question, no.

*I don't agree with the monarchy by the way, I'm just saying why they're probably going to stick around!
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Surely they generate a lot of money via tourism? The Queen is also head of the Church (although I'm sure there are ways around it).

There are good arguments as to why they are a waste of time. However, for sentimental reasoning I would like them to stay. I think they are good for morale purposes in some situations, and Britain has a unique history which they are a large fraction of. Who would go on our notes aswell? I wouldn't like Cameron's sweaty boat on our fiver thanks.
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I have honestly never heard of ANY tourists coming to Britain to "see the queen". Sure, buckingham palace and other Royal buildings rake in the tourist cash. But the actual family themselves... no.

I think, if we kept the history of the monarchy, but got rid of them, we would only lose a small proportion of current tourism, whilst saving ****loads on their upkeep
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(Original post by ajdrools)
What an absolute waste of £37m per year!
Think about how that money could be spent on something more important, like cancer research...
I honestly don't see how people can make comments about how bad people scrounging off benefits are and then support the royal family!
I saw the royal train at hooton station the other day, entire station was filled with police, prince charles was been driven into the station by an expensive car with full police escort, trains where canceled... all during rush hour! AND to make it worse it was all paid for by the tax payer!
This is why the monarchy boils my blood. Who the **** are they to have this sort of fuss around them? They're nobodies.

All that ****ing police support to stop them being targets of terrorist attacks. But if we just cut them out so that they weren't representative of our country anymore, they wouldn't BE a target.
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It's worth remembering that the royal family does not own the UK, and the UK does not own the royal family. They happen to be - nominally, if nothing else - in charge of the country, but what is theirs is theirs. They own it, just like you might own a PC. As such, we couldn't "sell" buildings that don't belong to the tax payer, even if the monarchy was abolished. That said, whilst some members of the royal family do get money from the royal charter, they pay back far, far more from money earned on their private estates - estates that have nothing to do with the taxpayer. That goes straight back into the treasury, so they do not cost the taxpayer in total.

Similarly, where they to be abolished, we'd need a head of state. Any abolition of the monarchy would almost certainly involve a total re-working of the constitution, be it codified (most likely) or not. No one in their right mind desiring a liberal country would fuse the powers, so we'd need a head of state who wasn't the prime-minister. So we'd need someone to pay to do the stupid **** that Germany and France's heads of state do (the latter of whom's head of state costs them double, per person, that our monarchy "costs" us, and their families don't pay back into the treasury all the earnings of their estates!)
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(Original post by AnythingButChardonnay)
Abolishing the Monarchy is on my list of "things that would make me emigrate"

Not that that was intended to make you support abolishing them, you understand!
A bit off topic, but where would you go? If the monarchy is that important to you, which other country has a 'good enough' royal family?

OP I personally support the monarchy, and don't see them going any time soon. I would see it as a great shame if they were removed. Why would we throw away our history to save 70p a year or something like that? I also think they make better heads of state than any of the other options available.
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I see no problem with the royal family. Sure they cost us. But I think it's worth it, they are a great tourist attraction , they are steeped in History and they provide a few laughs along the way !
Haha! "Good for tourism" Doesn't sound like much of a reason for keeping them to me. Besides, what country arranges its constitution around the desires of foreign tourists?
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This is why the monarchy boils my blood. Who the **** are they to have this sort of fuss around them? They're nobodies.

All that ****ing police support to stop them being targets of terrorist attacks. But if we just cut them out so that they weren't representative of our country anymore, they wouldn't BE a target.
I wonder what other pieces of British heritage you'd be willing to get rid of to stop them from becoming targets of terrorists.
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(Original post by DanGrover)
It's worth remembering that the royal family does not own the UK, and the UK does not own the royal family. They happen to be - nominally, if nothing else - in charge of the country, but what is theirs is theirs. They own it, just like you might own a PC. As such, we couldn't "sell" buildings that don't belong to the tax payer, even if the monarchy was abolished. That said, whilst some members of the royal family do get money from the royal charter, they pay back far, far more from money earned on their private estates - estates that have nothing to do with the taxpayer. That goes straight back into the treasury, so they do not cost the taxpayer in total.

Similarly, where they to be abolished, we'd need a head of state. Any abolition of the monarchy would almost certainly involve a total re-working of the constitution, be it codified (most likely) or not. No one in their right mind desiring a liberal country would fuse the powers, so we'd need a head of state who wasn't the prime-minister. So we'd need someone to pay to do the stupid **** that Germany and France's heads of state do (the latter of whom's head of state costs them double, per person, that our monarchy "costs" us, and their families don't pay back into the treasury all the earnings of their estates!)
Good post.

Amusingly enough, most of the people I know who whinge about the "cost" of the royal family are those who are still in full-time education and have never paid tax in their lives.
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Abolishing the Monarchy is on my list of "things that would make me emigrate"
With me, the monarchy (along with many other things, i'm not THAT petty [honest]) is one of the reasons i'm planning to emigrate after uni! =P
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(Original post by Jerry Meandering)
Haha! "Good for tourism" Doesn't sound like much of a reason for keeping them to me. Besides, what country arranges its constitution around the desires of foreign tourists?
This great land.

If as your flag suggests you are American , you are just jealous of out monarchy. Get your own !
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A post that deserves nothing short of complete and utter contempt.

(Original post by Dac.)
well. they cost a fortune to keep
No, they most certainly do not.

the manipulate us with control over the news to increase the statue of their family members.
Private media is free to be manipulated any way it likes.

i think we should stop funding them and let them keep their own heads above water.
They easily would, they're independently very wealthy.

sell Buckingham palace and give something back to the tax payer. im sure al fayed would be prepared to pay a few billion for that. the NHS could need the funding.
The NH-****ing-S? That black hole? You could pour ten billion into that a year and it'd make bugger-all difference.

Moreover, Mohammed Al-Fayed doesn't have a 'few billion' going spare. But the very notion of selling one of our most significant national buildings to a traitorous, sinister foreign fantasist is nothing short of revolting.

o and don't neg me for this.
I would if I hadn't used up today's rep and assigned tomorrow's already. You should be bloody well ashamed of yourself.
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And all that for 61p per year
Hell, I'd pay £10 a year for a DVD of Prince Phillip's stand-up.
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(Original post by Bengali_Beauty_)
i like having a royal family, its keeps England unique, as were the only country who acutally have a royal family, arent we?
*Bashes head off desk*

(Original post by Jerry Meandering)
Haha! "Good for tourism" Doesn't sound like much of a reason for keeping them to me. Besides, what country arranges its constitution around the desires of foreign tourists?
I could've said that myself.
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My problem with it is not so much the cost point of view but from a symbolic point of view its hard to maintain a secular, modern, democratic, liberal society which is technically a monarchy.

I don't think they're really a tourist attraction - buckingham palace is ...keep that
but how many tourists actually see the queen?

Having said that however...some american girls in NY asked me (having ascertained I was British) whether I knew her or not...
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(Original post by jgupta)
My problem with it is not so much the cost point of view but from a symbolic point of view its hard to maintain a secular, modern, democratic, liberal society which is technically a monarchy.

I don't think they're really a tourist attraction - buckingham palace is ...keep that
but how many tourists actually see the queen?

Having said that however...some american girls in NY asked me (having ascertained I was British) whether I knew her or not...
I chat to the Queen on MSN. She personally speaks every single tourist that visits Buck palace.
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*Bashes head off desk*
Have you ever tried putting your head in a blender?
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My problem with it is not so much the cost point of view but from a symbolic point of view its hard to maintain a secular, modern, democratic, liberal society which is technically a monarchy.
Really? Funny how we've (and indeed, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Spain (I could go on for quite a while here) managed it tremendously better than most presidential countries.

Edit: Well, apart from the secular one. We have no pretensions to secularism in the UK.
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(Original post by Jerry Meandering)
Have you ever tried putting your head in a blender?
No.
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I expect the Royal family costs less to keep than they actually make in tourism revenue...or am I wrong?

One thing that is wrong on this thread, though, is the assumption that we are the only country in the world with a royal family. Thailand is an example of a monarchy, as are many Caribbean countries.
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