I wouldn't pay it . I would either drive or look for another job . My maximum tolerable distance for commuting is no more than 10 miles .I hate it . I don't see the point in paying more than £4000 for a motor either.....I get mine from the auctions and run them into the ground . Cheapest way wins for me.....top marque vehicles are so ridiculous it amazes me why people buy them . My vehicles have over 300,000 miles
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Ban union strikes on such vital public services. End of story.
Entire network is a joke - not worth the high prices they seem to command.
What exactly is the justification for such an increase? I catch the train most weeks. I can't remember the last time my train was on time. Including last week and the week before where I missed my connections. According to Virgin Trains, I'm given plenty of time to catch my connection. Yes, if my train doesn't leave 5 minutes late...
(and I'm always left waiting in Bristol where it's always bloody cold!)
(Original post by DSilva)
The rest of Europe manages to provide a far cheaper and more reliable nationalised service. There's no reason we cannot do the same.
Yes, and a significant part of why they are cheaper is they pay their staff, in particular their drivers, less! Less than half in the case of Germany! 12% saving, as mentioned!
Where do you think European rail lines save money/increase efficiency? And don't just pass off the issue as "nationalisation". Its because they save money on wages!
Also the average salary of a train driver is nowhere near 75k.
The terms agreed by Southern rail in 2017 were that drivers would get £60k for a 4 day week, or £75k if they do an optional extra day.
Other networks can be less, but are still ~£50k starting salary. That's both objectively ridiculous, and not what Europe does.
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We have one of the worst rail networks of any modern country i've ever been to. My friends from Japan joke that it's like riding an exhibit at a railway museum. I spend part of the year in Japan every year and the comparison is laughable. Other East Asian countries, including China, and many European countries are also miles ahead.
In the past year i've returned to my hometown five times from the city I currently live in, and three of those times i've had a replacement bus service. An incredibly expensive replacement bus service. I've been looking at trains today to return for Christmas and again there was a warning that a handful of trains are being cancelled daily "until further notice"... 7 or 8 today if I remember rightly just in this end of the country.
Tickets are insanely priced for the service provided. Most trains are old, dirty and slow. They're often late. On busy lines there are many cases where you can't get a seat, which is *******s when you're paying like £50 for a 2 hour journey that you could probably do by Megabus for a fiver. There's never enough carriages to meet demand on busy lines, which isn't right on lines that are known to oversell daily.
I think the worst thing is that it's a service that just can't be relied upon. When i'm in Japan I can plan a journey with confidence literally down to the minute. But when travelling here, to the airport for an early morning flight for example, I often opt to travel the night before and stay in a hotel, because if I have to catch one of the first two trains of the day in order to make my flight, I just can't guarantee that something won't go wrong. It does roughly half of the time.
I honestly despise the UK's rail network. Seeing how other countries are able to provide a functioning, affordable rail service, the incompetence and inconvenience of ours angers me so much. Like some other services in this country, it's an embarrassment.
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