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Anyone here at a university in Australia?
If so, how is your experience overall, the people, and racism?
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A black friend from Manchester spent a few months at Monash University in Melbourne and said that the constant stares and snide comments made him very uncomfortable.
When he walked with a girl to a coffee shop, local hoons driving by in a car threw a beer can at him and shouted racial abuse. And when he talked about his experiences to Australians who thought were his friends, they said "Why dont you go back to Africa if you dont like it here ? "
Prepare to be very uncomfortable if you are black or Asian.
When he walked with a girl to a coffee shop, local hoons driving by in a car threw a beer can at him and shouted racial abuse. And when he talked about his experiences to Australians who thought were his friends, they said "Why dont you go back to Africa if you dont like it here ? "
Prepare to be very uncomfortable if you are black or Asian.
I used to live in Melbourne, Australia and I'd say Melbourne has a very small extent of recism. However, it does depend on your racial background.
For Asians (and also caucasians), there's virtually no racism in Melbourne. I know some Australians do discriminate against Muslims.
Personally I do love Melbourne due to the scattered parks all around the city and the tranquility. Sydney, however, doesn't appeal to me this much.
For Asians (and also caucasians), there's virtually no racism in Melbourne. I know some Australians do discriminate against Muslims.
Personally I do love Melbourne due to the scattered parks all around the city and the tranquility. Sydney, however, doesn't appeal to me this much.
flugestuge
That is not what the Melburnian Koreans and Chinese I know tell me.
I think racism really depends on your personalities, your willingness to integrate and lots of other personal factors.
At school, I didn't feel the racism as my school is very multi-cultural and international understanding is greatly promoted. But if you are talking about everything you might encounter in Melbourne City, then there might be some problems.
Some clerks might not bother to help you if you can't express well in English. (Some were extremely rude to me when I firstly arrived there). And Melbournians do not generally like Americans, at least from the group I know. However, in university or schools, I do think racism is minimal as Australia is such a multicultural country and most of the students integrate very well.
anniexingyan
IAt school, I didn't feel the racism as my school is very multi-cultural and international understanding is greatly promoted. But if you are talking about everything you might encounter in Melbourne City, then there might be some problems.
So if you spend your three years in Australia hiding on the campus and avoiding life in the city, you are safe from racism ?
How reassuring.
from my experience, i find the younger generation is mostly quite open to non-caucasians, especially those who have lived and gone to school in more diversed areas.
however, the older generation (those ages 50+) can sometimes be quite racial. Mostly because they grew up under the White Australia policy, which lasted until about the 1970's.
however, the older generation (those ages 50+) can sometimes be quite racial. Mostly because they grew up under the White Australia policy, which lasted until about the 1970's.
If you go to Australia and you are of an Asian background, there wont be racism since Asianss are taking over the country pretty much.
I live in Australia and I do not recommend coming here to study. It is VERY different than in the U.K, for instance there is not special freshers week, not much social stuff really goes on (or atleast in Western Australia) for the uni's etc.
If you want to go to Australia, come here AFTER you have your degree. You can make upto three times what you would make in the U.K, simple because of the demand and because Aussies are lazy.
For your information I am (white) born and raised in Britain, just came to Perth to do high school - and I hate it here. Planning to go to either Melbourne or U.K to get my degree, most likely U.K.
I live in Australia and I do not recommend coming here to study. It is VERY different than in the U.K, for instance there is not special freshers week, not much social stuff really goes on (or atleast in Western Australia) for the uni's etc.
If you want to go to Australia, come here AFTER you have your degree. You can make upto three times what you would make in the U.K, simple because of the demand and because Aussies are lazy.
For your information I am (white) born and raised in Britain, just came to Perth to do high school - and I hate it here. Planning to go to either Melbourne or U.K to get my degree, most likely U.K.
JDon
I live in Australia and I do not recommend coming here to study. It is VERY different than in the U.K, for instance there is not special freshers week, not much social stuff really goes on (or atleast in Western Australia) for the uni's etc.
About fresher's week:
It's true that there's not much social stuff during fresher's week in the uni. Most of the social activities are in the residential colleges (halls/dorms). So if you're not going to be living in one of those, you'll have to find your own things to do during orientation week.
The problem with Australian universities is that most people do not travel to a different city to attend university, where as in the U.K people from all over the country attend different universities, making it easier to form new social groups etc.
I am looking into going back to the U.K for my university degree, assuming I do not get accepted to one of the top universities in Sydney/Melbourne.
I am looking into going back to the U.K for my university degree, assuming I do not get accepted to one of the top universities in Sydney/Melbourne.
With compulsory student unions having been dismantled by the previous government, the uni student life at some uni's aren't that exciting. I don't know how it compares with the UK, but a lot of universities here still have an Orientation week or something at the start where there are activities for students etc. Obviously the residential colleges usually organise stuff for their residents at the start of the year on top of that.
Australian cities have a reasonable size and if you are in Sydney you would still have a lot of people in your classes who have been to a different high school/area of the city. The numbers that travel interstate might not be as much as the movement within the UK, but a lot of rural students move to the city for their degrees.
And JDon - did you just say something about Asian-Australians running taking over the country and that Australians are lazy?
There might be elements of truth there, but be careful when you make generalisations like that. Some people might find that offensive.
Technically, NZ and the UK has the highest rates of migration to Australia - it seems like Australia's more likely going to be run over by Brits than by "Asians". And maybe Asian-Australians are "taking over the country" by getting into professional fields such as medicine, law etc because they aren't as "lazy" as the rest of the people in Australia. I heard WA is pretty racist, if you think the "Asians" are "taking over the country" there then I don't think you'd like Sydney or Melbourne very much.
Australian cities have a reasonable size and if you are in Sydney you would still have a lot of people in your classes who have been to a different high school/area of the city. The numbers that travel interstate might not be as much as the movement within the UK, but a lot of rural students move to the city for their degrees.
And JDon - did you just say something about Asian-Australians running taking over the country and that Australians are lazy?
There might be elements of truth there, but be careful when you make generalisations like that. Some people might find that offensive.
Technically, NZ and the UK has the highest rates of migration to Australia - it seems like Australia's more likely going to be run over by Brits than by "Asians". And maybe Asian-Australians are "taking over the country" by getting into professional fields such as medicine, law etc because they aren't as "lazy" as the rest of the people in Australia. I heard WA is pretty racist, if you think the "Asians" are "taking over the country" there then I don't think you'd like Sydney or Melbourne very much.
I have been told W.A has a higher population of Asians when compared to Sydney and Melbourne? Well, if not, the different is the size of the 3 cities, Perth is so small and cumbersome so they stand out more here. I am guessing you are an Australian living in the U.K, which is why you took offense to my statement, but there is more truth there than you think.
My point really was - even if Asian-Australians form a high proportion of the population. What do you mean they are "taking over" the country? Like other migrants/visitors or Australian-born person, they have every right to be in Australia. You might as well say Australians are taking over their own country. Singling out Asians seem to suggest there is something wrong with Asians being in Australia. And I clearly pointed out that there are more Brits and Kiwis in Australia - the country's way more likely to be "taken over" by these people than other migrant groups.
And Sydney and Melbourne are the main cities that migrants settle in - I seriously doubt that Perth or WA has more "Asians" than elsewhere in the country. Actually, what do you mean by "Asians"? And maybe you should visit Sydney and Melbourne and get out of isolated Perth. I think your statistics might have been a little bit distorted. Perth has a high level of overseas-born people, like Sydney and Melbourne, but a lot of the migrants that got to Perth (compared to Syd and Mel) are from UK or NZ, not Asia.
I wouldn't say much about Australians being lazy. I'm sure a lot of people in the UK and other countries in the world are also lazy.
And Sydney and Melbourne are the main cities that migrants settle in - I seriously doubt that Perth or WA has more "Asians" than elsewhere in the country. Actually, what do you mean by "Asians"? And maybe you should visit Sydney and Melbourne and get out of isolated Perth. I think your statistics might have been a little bit distorted. Perth has a high level of overseas-born people, like Sydney and Melbourne, but a lot of the migrants that got to Perth (compared to Syd and Mel) are from UK or NZ, not Asia.
I wouldn't say much about Australians being lazy. I'm sure a lot of people in the UK and other countries in the world are also lazy.
JDon
If you go to Australia and you are of an Asian background, there wont be racism since Asianss are taking over the country pretty much.
Typical Australian racist attitude.
Imagine living in a country full of people like that
flugestuge
Typical Australian racist attitude.
Imagine living in a country full of people like that
Imagine living in a country full of people like that
Firstly I ain't an Australian I am British and I have lived here (W.A) for a few years to do high school.
Mate, saying Asians are taking over the country is not racist and I suggest you get some help if you are Asian and take offense to such a comment. I have plenty of Asian friends who agree and laugh about it, it is not racist, it is just something that is occuring. There is a high proportion of Asians living in Australia, if you don't agree I suggest you get out of the basement.
Australia has a serious and continuing problem with racism. Australian students are just as racist as the older people.
Here is a typical anti-Asian racist comment from an Australian student site:
http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=174595&page=3
"Asians are useless in group assignments. I've done assignments where I have basically had to do the work of 5 people all by myself because they have had no idea what they were doing and/or were incapable of writing a single sentence in proper english.
In a tutorial where all you do is listen to presentations for the entire session, having to sit through the presentations of 20 asians that
you can't understand is unbearable.
They talk in their annoying foreign languages.
They are not attractive.
I look forward to tutorials for some subjects because they are full of hot girls... this is not the case for ones full of asians.
They smell."
Ask yourself if you would want to study in a country like that.
Here is a typical anti-Asian racist comment from an Australian student site:
http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=174595&page=3
"Asians are useless in group assignments. I've done assignments where I have basically had to do the work of 5 people all by myself because they have had no idea what they were doing and/or were incapable of writing a single sentence in proper english.
In a tutorial where all you do is listen to presentations for the entire session, having to sit through the presentations of 20 asians that
you can't understand is unbearable.
They talk in their annoying foreign languages.
They are not attractive.
I look forward to tutorials for some subjects because they are full of hot girls... this is not the case for ones full of asians.
They smell."
Ask yourself if you would want to study in a country like that.
Yer mate that is one person, there is racism in every country.
Don't know what you are trying to get at, I hate living in Australia, so if your point is to tell me what a bad country it is, don't bother because I don't even like living here. Hopefully going to be back in the U.K again for university, as that is my home country.
Don't know what you are trying to get at, I hate living in Australia, so if your point is to tell me what a bad country it is, don't bother because I don't even like living here. Hopefully going to be back in the U.K again for university, as that is my home country.
JDon
Yer mate that is one person, there is racism in every country.
Don't know what you are trying to get at, I hate living in Australia, so if your point is to tell me what a bad country it is, don't bother because I don't even like living here. Hopefully going to be back in the U.K again for university, as that is my home country.
Don't know what you are trying to get at, I hate living in Australia, so if your point is to tell me what a bad country it is, don't bother because I don't even like living here. Hopefully going to be back in the U.K again for university, as that is my home country.
Just out of curiosity, why do you hate living in Australia so much?
I went to Monash. Caulfield campus and we had a very high number of international students. I actually really enjoyed the course. The Uni itself was pretty souless. Caulfield is a new campus and pretty well kitted out, but didn't have halls or events so much. Clayton is bigger and had more stuff on. TBh we just turned up for lectures and then went home. Less of the hanging around at uni in the bar/pub etc.
I wish I'd been to uni in the UK though. But I live here now so it's evened out.
I wish I'd been to uni in the UK though. But I live here now so it's evened out.
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