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Looks like Theresa May's government are calling off the vote tomorrow.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ingful-vote-eu

This isn't surprising as she was certain to lose it, but a lot of people had assumed that our Robotic PM was incapable of being seen to change tack, for fear of not looking sufficiently PM-ish.

The first of many defeats to come for the government on this I am certain.
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The statement at 15:30 should be a confirmation that May's decided to postpone the vote in the face of what would've been a heavy defeat in the House of Commons tomorrow.

May aborts planned Brexit vote in humiliating setback - FT
https://www.ft.com/content/9c59a204-...f-99e208d3e521

Theresa May has aborted a planned vote on her Brexit deal on Tuesday — according to several people close to cabinet ministers — in a humiliating setback for a prime minister who was facing a heavy defeat in the House of Commons.

Downing Street said at 11.15am that the vote was going ahead “as planned” but shortly afterwards the UK prime minister told her cabinet on a conference call it would be postponed, according to officials briefed on the matter. Number 10 has so far declined to comment.

The pound fell 0.7 per cent against the euro to trade at €1.1087 just after midday — its lowest level since September. The currency was also down 0.5 per cent against the US dollar at $1.2662 — the lowest since June 2017.

Yields on gilts also fell, suggesting growing investor jitters about UK economic growth in the future, given higher odds of a no deal Brexit.

Mrs May is expected to give a statement to the House of Commons at 3.30pm explaining her decision to pull the vote and how she intends to find a way past the political impasse in the coming days.

Andrea Leadsom, leader of the House of Commons, will make a separate statement formally postponing Tuesday’s vote and setting out how the government plans to proceed.

Mrs May’s decision followed warnings from Julian Smith, chief whip, that her Brexit deal would suffer an overwhelming defeat if she pushed ahead, with dozens of Conservative MPs threatening to vote it down.

The prime minister hopes the delay will allow her time to secure an improved deal in Brussels and will travel to a planned European Council meeting on Thursday to plead for help from the 27 remaining EU member states.

Her focus is on the Irish backstop— the insurance policy against a hard border in Ireland — which has become the main point of contention for Eurosceptic Tory MPs.

Downing Street acknowledged that the legal withdrawal treaty had already been finalised and that reopening the text could lead to other countries adding their own demands: France wants more access to Britain’s fisheries while Spain has demands over Gibraltar.

Instead Mrs May is thought to be seeking clarifications or assurances from the EU to try to persuade Tory MPs that the backstop will not be permanent, but she knows that anything that is not legally binding is unlikely to sway opinion.

The prime minister held talks over the weekend with Donald Tusk, European Council president, Jean-Claude Juncker, European Commission president, Leo Varadkar, Irish prime minister, and Angela Merkel, German chancellor, to assess the scope for tweaks to the Brexit deal.

Mrs May and Mr Smith had agreed to wait until Monday to assess the parliamentary arithmetic, amid hopes that Tory MPs might return from a weekend in their constituencies in a different frame of mind.
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Oh for ****s sake.
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Statement to the House at 3.30pm this afternoon.

She isn't presumably standing down as she would want to do that to the cameras outside No 10 first, in her usual authoritarian style, she prefers to ignore Parliament whenever she can avoid doing so.

Absolute chaos. Markets are slumping.
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Only a few hours ago, Michael Gove on Radio 4:

"Asked on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme if the vote was “definitely, 100%” going to happen, the environment secretary replied: “Yes”. Pressed on the point, he said: “The vote is going ahead.”"

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Strong and stable Brexit. That is all. :lol:
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
Only a few hours ago, Michael Gove on Radio 4:

"Asked on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme if the vote was “definitely, 100%” going to happen, the environment secretary replied: “Yes”. Pressed on the point, he said: “The vote is going ahead.”"

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Absolutely shambolic.
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Strong and stable Brexit. That is all. :lol:
Strong and Stable... Strong and stable... Strong and stable....

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Perhaps this is what has thrown a major spanner in the works.


European commission says it will not renegotiate withdrawal agreement

The European commission has said that it will not renegotiate the withdrawal agreement. At a press briefing the commission’s spokeswoman Mina Andreeva said:

"We take note of the court of justice judgment today on the irrevocability of article 50.
We have an agreement on the table which was endorsed by the European council in its article 50 format on the 25th November.
As President Juncker said, this deal is the best and only deal possible. We will not renegotiate - our position has therefore not changed and as far as we are concerned the United Kingdom is leaving the European Union on the 29th March 2019."
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
Strong and Stable... Strong and stable... Strong and stable....

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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
Perhaps this is what has thrown a major spanner in the works.


European commission says it will not renegotiate withdrawal agreement

The European commission has said that it will not renegotiate the withdrawal agreement. At a press briefing the commission’s spokeswoman Mina Andreeva said:

"We take note of the court of justice judgment today on the irrevocability of article 50.
We have an agreement on the table which was endorsed by the European council in its article 50 format on the 25th November.
As President Juncker said, this deal is the best and only deal possible. We will not renegotiate - our position has therefore not changed and as far as we are concerned the United Kingdom is leaving the European Union on the 29th March 2019."
Plus the ECJ has ruled Brexit can be caneceled without new terms being set out for the UK. It just strengthens the case for her deal to be rejected as some people would argue we can stay with no repercussions.
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Plus the ECJ has ruled Brexit can be caneceled without new terms being set out for the UK. It just strengthens the case for her deal to be rejected as some people would argue we can stay with no repercussions.
The lines on the map do seem to be rapidly shifting. The case for a second referendum now looks overwhelming and I suspect even Jeremy will have to come out for it before too long.
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hahahaha what a melt! :rofl:
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We do not need a second referendum. The people have voted. If the current Government are unable to enact a clean break from the European Union, then they should quit and call for another election.

The Remainers hope and think that by calling for a second vote, people would have changed their minds. They made the same wrong assumption in the first round and would do the same again.

Either a clean break or the politicians should be honest and tell the people that democracy is dead in this great nation.
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
The lines on the map do seem to be rapidly shifting. The case for a second referendum now looks overwhelming and I suspect even Jeremy will have to come out for it before too long.
That could explain why there’s talks of a delay.
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We do not need a second referendum. The people have voted. If the current Government are unable to enact a clean break from the European Union, then they should quit and call for another election.

The Remainers hope and think that by calling for a second vote, people would have changed their minds. They made the same wrong assumption in the first round and would do the same again.

Either a clean break or the politicians should be honest and tell the people that democracy is dead in this great nation.
Referendums are binding for ever are they?

Do you feel enough time has passed for us to be able to review the Norman Conquest, 1066, or is that still binding in your opinion?
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(Original post by Wired_1800)
We do not need a second referendum. The people have voted. If the current Government are unable to enact a clean break from the European Union, then they should quit and call for another election.

The Remainers hope and think that by calling for a second vote, people would have changed their minds. They made the same wrong assumption in the first round and would do the same again.

Either a clean break or the politicians should be honest and tell the people that democracy is dead in this great nation.
Most of the leavers have realised that they have been lied and conned. Leaving the EU would be a disaster for this great country.
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This is literally pure The Thick of It/In the Loop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Loop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thick_of_It
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brexit is as stable as i am and i didnt think it was for the goverment to get down to that level

(korg voice) little self depreciating joke for you there
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(Original post by todorokishouto)
brexit is as stable as i am and i didnt think it was for the goverment to get down to that level
Strong and stable breakdown?
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