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Although I don't like how poeple who profess to hate the direct democracy of referendums, and think the last referendum was a stupid idea, are now becoming uber democrats. Parliment should just not do Brexit.
This. Bloody stupid liberals pretending they give a crap about democracy. Parliament should grow some balls and just say No to brexit. And then if people don’t like thst they should elect pro brexit MPs.

Getting a pro Remain parliament to make a success if brexit is literally the last retarded thing one can do.

As far the EU is concerned is I’m completely ambivalent. I’d be fine with it if it was run by some like Victor Orban just like ChaoticButterfly would be fine with it if it was run by Ysnis Varoufakis. Funny how the Alt right and anarcho commies see the world do similarly 😂
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what ****ing veneer!? Civilisation allows killing and enslavement on a scale no savage could comprehend!


The only thing to be said for civilisation reducing the savage nature of humanity is that it eventually lead to hobbesian states where the act of voilence is surrended to the state and pacifying it's subjects. But human voilence is still occuring. It is just now much more organised and encased in beucracy.


The holocaust occured at the peak of modernism and industrial society. Stalin and Hitler are both products of the enlightenment.
Sure, I agree with all of that. It’s usually you guys that talk about how much society has ‘progressed’.
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Sure, I agree with all of that. It’s usually you guys that talk about how much society has ‘progressed’.
It's my anarchist underside showing. Gives me a healthy skepticism of conservative and liberal stories of progress (and communist/socialist ones).

My lot have a habbit of liking the savagery of civilisation when it is being done by communists or socialists. Even I enjoy the fruits of centralisation and brute force when it leads to free healthcare and social democracy. But the far left has always been skepticle of the liberal and less radicle left stories of human progress. The brutality of subjugating weaker poeples in america, the voilance of proto states, the brutal transition from feudalism to capitalism. All these things are acknowledged in Marxism and other far left thinking. Lets also not forget the postmodern bogey men that haunt the dreams of the right.
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