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Is nt making students pay for their own indoctrination, abusive?
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How else would universities get their funding? Colleges and schools are already underfunded by the government even without paying for universities
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How else would universities get their funding? Colleges and schools are already underfunded by the government even without paying for universities
Agreed.
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Is nt making students pay for their own indoctrination, abusive?
Education up to 18 is free. That is the most important thing. We should be discouraging silly degrees by putting the cost up and reducing the cost of the important useful ones. Of course what is useful and what isn't, is open to discussion
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Education up to 18 is free. That is the most important thing. We should be discouraging silly degrees by putting the cost up and reducing the cost of the important useful ones. Of course what is useful and what isn't, is open to discussion
Also, if uni was free that would allow anyone to access it without any consequences which would drop average grades substantially and totally devalue degrees
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Is nt making students pay for their own indoctrination, abusive?
Indoctrination? That's religion, not education.
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How else would universities get their funding? Colleges and schools are already underfunded by the government even without paying for universities
Read the OP again. Money is made from thin air. Numbers put into a machine.
The pound, like any other 'currency' is fiat money, issued when the government or anyone take a loan.

This money was used to fund government indoctrination until the government decided to further abuse its students by making them pay for it
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Read the OP again. Money is made from thin air. Numbers put into a machine.
The pound, like any other 'currency' is fiat money, issued when the government or anyone take a loan.

This money was used to fund government indoctrination until the government decided to further abuse its students by making them pay for it
I was commenting based on the assumption people knew basic economic principles... the government can't just print more money without side effects, look at Japan's economy.

Also, money isn't free. The government has already spent £70 million on making the new plastic notes.
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Lol this is why you do GCSE economics kids

You can’t just print as much money as you like - didn’t work well for the Weimar republic... devalues currency
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this is why you do GCSE economics kids
I would have taken it if my school offered it.
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(Original post by Parthaab)
Read the OP again. Money is made from thin air. Numbers put into a machine.
And what are those numbers? Haven't you noticed that the number '2' means there may be two different things in the real world?
The amount of money made is decided upon measurement what economy can handle and what amount can be trusted reasonable. If you produced too much money, they would lose value and cause hyperinflation.


(Original post by Parthaab)
This money was used to fund government indoctrination until the government decided to further abuse its students by making them pay for it
Sure, teaching children to read, write, understand different things and calculate is an indoctrination. People don't need it.
And you surely didn't need it. If they didn't 'indoctrinate you' we would be free from your nonsense, and you could very well hunt rats for your living.
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Is nt making students pay for their own indoctrination, abusive?
It isnt really created from nothing though.

Your use of indoctrination is incorrect.
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Money is not created from nothing.
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I was commenting based on the assumption people knew basic economic principles... the government can't just print more money without side effects, look at Japan's economy.

Also, money isn't free. The government has already spent £70 million on making the new plastic notes.
So they could print enough money to make indoctrination free for several decades. And then suddenly what changed? Has inflation reduced?
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if university was free we would have to limit the number of people going to university. how else will the government afford it without spending more money?

but muhh high taxes
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So they could print enough money to make indoctrination free for several decades. And then suddenly what changed? Has inflation reduced?
This doesn't really make any sense. They *can't* print enough money to make it free... printing a load of money to pay for universities for a year, let alone several decades, would devalue money so much to cause hyperinflation and screw the economy to hell.

The government is in almost £2 trillion debt, if they could print money to pay it off do you not think they would've done that already?
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This doesn't really make any sense. They *can't* print enough money to make it free... printing a load of money to pay for universities for a year, let alone several decades, would devalue money so much to cause hyperinflation and screw the economy to hell.

The government is in almost £2 trillion debt, if they could print money to pay it off do you not think they would've done that already?
So they could print enough money to make indoctrination free for several decades. And then suddenly what changed? Has inflation reduced?
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So they could print enough money to make indoctrination free for several decades. And then suddenly what changed? Has inflation reduced?
lol people do say you cant make a person this convinced change his mind - not matter how dumb the proposal.....

you cant just print off money, do you think the budget deficit would spiral out of control if we could print money??? lol, read some basic economics, you devalue the currency and causes mass hyperinflation....

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lol people do say you cant make a person this convinced change his mind - not matter how dumb the proposal.....

you cant just print off money, do you think the budget deficit would spiral out of control if we could print money??? lol, read some basic economics, you devalue the currency and causes mass hyperinflation....

Instead of producing some indoctrination material, why dont you explain why this did not hold true until 10 years ago?
Fiat money has been in existence for many decades ( and probably centuries before )
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(Original post by Parthaab)
Instead of producing some indoctrination material, why dont you explain why this did not hold true until 10 years ago?
Fiat money has been in existence for many decades ( and probably centuries before )
10 years ago...? You had to pay for university 10 years ago... A long time ago you did not, but that was because the only people who would make it into universities where the rich and well educated of society who came from priveleged backgrounds so the government would pay because it was a minority. Nowadays, over a quarter of the student population go to universities....



If the government kept paying, they would go from funding a tiny amount of people going to university to funding so many that it'd account for a large part of the government deficit. Times change.

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lol people do say you cant make a person this convinced change his mind - not matter how dumb the proposal.....
You're sadly very correct here...
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