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Hi there, I dont know which one to choose.. any good soul to help me list pros anc cons of both? many thanks, B.
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Hi there, I dont know which one to choose.. any good soul to help me list pros anc cons of both? many thanks, B.
The problem is what might be a pro or con for one person might not be for you. You're also going to really struggle to find anyone who has experience of both careers. You really just need to do a lot of research and also try to get some work experience in both areas if you can.
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Hi there, I dont know which one to choose.. any good soul to help me list pros anc cons of both? many thanks, B.
Nursing - you will always be employed unless you kill someone. You can travel the world. You can specialise - no contest whatsoever
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Cardiac physiology all the way! The specialism is in such dire shortage at the moment, both within the NHS and abroad (NZ, Aus etc...). Hospitals will snap you up and will invest in you in terms of post grad training and other benefits. I have colleageus who work term time only as an incentive to work within the NHS as opposed to industry. Departments tend to treat you better in order to retain you! Or at least this is what experience has shown me. As physiologists we work in a variety of healthcare settings from OP clinics and community work to cardiac cath lab and theatre work. There's even a growing number of physiologists responsible for the minor surgical implantation and programming of medical devices. I'm personally situated in a big tertiary hospital so we often work in more acute areas of care, the PCI lab is an example of this (treating heart attack patients). This setting really highlights the differences between physiologist and nurse. As physiologists we Monitor ECG and heamodynamics, actively feeding back info and guiding the decisions of the doctors. We can provide temporary pacing and specialist diagnostic services, such as intravascular ultrasound, as well as selecting and logging medical equipments and drugs given to the patients. In contrast nurses can be found doing more of a scrub nurse role, opening and prepping equipment e.g. Stents and catheters, taking bloods to check clotting times and administering drugs. Nurses can have more engagement with the patient throughout the case where as we tend to mainly interact with patients when setting them up with monitoring equipment (ECG, BP, SP02 etc). Although this isnt always the case, In some hospital trusts physiologists will provide the bulk of that direct interaction. Within the field of cardiology, physiology also provides much quicker career progression than nursing. You can become an echocardiographer for example, allowing you to earn at a band 7 rate as well as also having opportunity do locum work (£45-50ph). However I'm not sure how this progression compares in terms of other nursing specialisms! Both careers provide equally vital roles, but I guess ultimately nurses provide more of an emotional/ 'pastoral style' Role than a physiologist would, we are more scientific by nature! hope this helps
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Cardiac physiology all the way! The specialism is in such dire shortage at the moment, both within the NHS and abroad (NZ, Aus etc...). Hospitals will snap you up and will invest in you in terms of post grad training and other benefits. I have colleageus who work term time only as an incentive to work within the NHS as opposed to industry. Departments tend to treat you better in order to retain you! Or at least this is what experience has shown me. As physiologists we work in a variety of healthcare settings from OP clinics and community work to cardiac cath lab and theatre work. There's even a growing number of physiologists responsible for the minor surgical implantation and programming of medical devices. I'm personally situated in a big tertiary hospital so we often work in more acute areas of care, the PCI lab is an example of this (treating heart attack patients). This setting really highlights the differences between physiologist and nurse. As physiologists we Monitor ECG and heamodynamics, actively feeding back info and guiding the decisions of the doctors. We can provide temporary pacing and specialist diagnostic services, such as intravascular ultrasound, as well as selecting and logging medical equipments and drugs given to the patients. In contrast nurses can be found doing more of a scrub nurse role, opening and prepping equipment e.g. Stents and catheters, taking bloods to check clotting times and administering drugs. Nurses can have more engagement with the patient throughout the case where as we tend to mainly interact with patients when setting them up with monitoring equipment (ECG, BP, SP02 etc). Although this isnt always the case, In some hospital trusts physiologists will provide the bulk of that direct interaction. Within the field of cardiology, physiology also provides much quicker career progression than nursing. You can become an echocardiographer for example, allowing you to earn at a band 7 rate as well as also having opportunity do locum work (£45-50ph). However I'm not sure how this progression compares in terms of other nursing specialisms! Both careers provide equally vital roles, but I guess ultimately nurses provide more of an emotional/ 'pastoral style' Role than a physiologist would, we are more scientific by nature! hope this helps
It does help, I got an offer for this course
https://www.ulster.ac.uk/courses/201...-science-15285
healthcare physiology, but only if we get "good grades" in the first year, which I know am capable of. The only downside is that there is not much cardiac physiology jobs in northern ireland and i cannot move away, at least for "now". People keep telling me to try nursing instead, becasue there is plenty of job, but I fell in love with the heart system and all. Im also a mature student, otherwise if i was younger i would not even ask this question here lol.. Thank you for replying
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Nursing - you will always be employed unless you kill someone. You can travel the world. You can specialise - no contest whatsoever
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The problem is what might be a pro or con for one person might not be for you. You're also going to really struggle to find anyone who has experience of both careers. You really just need to do a lot of research and also try to get some work experience in both areas if you can.
I did a lot of research, still undecided.. thank you
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Why i still cannot see the reply i wrote?

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Why i still cannot see the reply i wrote?

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As you are a new user your post needs to be approved to ensure you are not spamming or rule breaking etc. As the post says really.
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As you are a new user your post needs to be approved to ensure you are not spamming or rule breaking etc. As the post says really.
thanks, i thought so.. just dont want the other person to think i didnt say thanks or replied to her message .
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hey I see you got an offer for health physiology, Im also a mature student 37 I've been offered a place health physiology (jordonstown) ,looks like the same class
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notsurey get in touch , looks like wee in same course in Belfast
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notsurey get in touch , looks like wee in same course in Belfast
Hi there.. I have not decided yet, I'm still watiing for other unis decision about nursing.
I was talking to another person that did graduate this year, and he said that we are 3 days a week in uni.. and the last year only 6 weeks in uni and the rest of the year on placements. What made you choose this course? have you applied to other courses too?
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It would be fantastic if it was 3 days a week I thought it might be 5 , I picked this course because I enjoyed the access biology coursework it was all about the heart and vascular system,I also studied physics and chemistry , I'm a butcher by trade I intersect organs in work (lungs,heart ) fascinating organs ,I want to learn more about them ,how about you why did u choose course,I only picked this course to get into and they offered a conditional offer so I just need to hit the summit button,are you from Belfast
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It would be fantastic if it was 3 days a week I thought it might be 5 , I picked this course because I enjoyed the access biology coursework it was all about the heart and vascular system,I also studied physics and chemistry , I'm a butcher by trade I intersect organs in work (lungs,heart ) fascinating organs ,I want to learn more about them ,how about you why did u choose course,I only picked this course to get into and they offered a conditional offer so I just need to hit the summit button,are you from Belfast
hahah same here, I'm doing access at belfastmet and loved the heart and vascular system, that's why I chose this course, but the person that graduated this year told me that NI does not have many jobs.. England, Scotland even ROI has plenty, but I cannot move any time soon. Being a mature student would be better for me to choose nursing, more jobs in NI and is also something that I would like to do.
I have been in touch with the coordinator of the course if you want I can send you the information I have so far.
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yes any information would be great thanks ,have a look on indeed ni jobs there's plenty on there cardiac physiology and respiratory physiology nband 5 and 6 I've been looking, there is also private hospitals you can work in ! I've been put off by nursing due to the workload and stress it gives I want to enjoy my job not added stress with it , it hard to make a decision as it's basically for life now as mature student
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Hey,What is the salary like after you're qualified? How long does it take to become a cardiac physiologists? How do you feel about it? I'm currently in sixthform trying to look for courses in uni and at the moment idk what to do. Still at the exploring stage lol but I do want to make sure it pays a decent salary?
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Cardiac physiology all the way! The specialism is in such dire shortage at the moment, both within the NHS and abroad (NZ, Aus etc...). Hospitals will snap you up and will invest in you in terms of post grad training and other benefits. I have colleageus who work term time only as an incentive to work within the NHS as opposed to industry. Departments tend to treat you better in order to retain you! Or at least this is what experience has shown me. As physiologists we work in a variety of healthcare settings from OP clinics and community work to cardiac cath lab and theatre work. There's even a growing number of physiologists responsible for the minor surgical implantation and programming of medical devices. I'm personally situated in a big tertiary hospital so we often work in more acute areas of care, the PCI lab is an example of this (treating heart attack patients). This setting really highlights the differences between physiologist and nurse. As physiologists we Monitor ECG and heamodynamics, actively feeding back info and guiding the decisions of the doctors. We can provide temporary pacing and specialist diagnostic services, such as intravascular ultrasound, as well as selecting and logging medical equipments and drugs given to the patients. In contrast nurses can be found doing more of a scrub nurse role, opening and prepping equipment e.g. Stents and catheters, taking bloods to check clotting times and administering drugs. Nurses can have more engagement with the patient throughout the case where as we tend to mainly interact with patients when setting them up with monitoring equipment (ECG, BP, SP02 etc). Although this isnt always the case, In some hospital trusts physiologists will provide the bulk of that direct interaction. Within the field of cardiology, physiology also provides much quicker career progression than nursing. You can become an echocardiographer for example, allowing you to earn at a band 7 rate as well as also having opportunity do locum work (£45-50ph). However I'm not sure how this progression compares in terms of other nursing specialisms! Both careers provide equally vital roles, but I guess ultimately nurses provide more of an emotional/ 'pastoral style' Role than a physiologist would, we are more scientific by nature! hope this helps
Hey,
what is the salary like after qualified? How do you feel about this career? Would you recommend it? I'm 18 and about to apply for uni but am still deciding what to do. The healthcare industry interests me but I don't have the science alevels. I know I don't need them for physiology etc. I also want to make sure the career I go into gets me a good salary. What are your experiences like?
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Hey, once you graduate you start at band 5.. same as nursing. To find out how much is band 5, just do a little google.. cause it differs a bit .. as in England is different from Northen Ireland. Have you decided what you want to do?
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Hey,What is the salary like after you're qualified? How long does it take to become a cardiac physiologists? How do you feel about it? I'm currently in sixthform trying to look for courses in uni and at the moment idk what to do. Still at the exploring stage lol but I do want to make sure it pays a decent salary?
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Hey, once you graduate you start at band 5.. same as nursing. To find out how much is band 5, just do a little google.. cause it differs a bit .. as in England is different from Northen Ireland. Have you decided what you want to do?
Oh ok, thanks. I think I'm going ahead with something completely different. I'm currently exploring the finance field and am thinking of going into accountancy as I see I think it'd be more suitable for me.
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