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I was doing research into a top university, the workload is a lot harder, they do more modules and are marked more harshly. While a bottom tier university, do half the modules, easier content and can pretty much party all year and attain a first. Which why a university like oxford attains the same number of firsts from a University like London Southbank or London Met for the same degree!

In other words a university outside the top tier, are pretty much worthless.
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Sigh... this has been done to death since the tsr domain was purchased years ago.
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That's some original "research" you've done there...
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mods should close this thread
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(Original post by LeapingLucy)
That's some original "research" you've done there...
Just have a look at number of firsts from top tier unis to bottom. Pretty much identical. In some cases a bottom tier university has more firsts. https://www.timeshighereducation.com...irsts-revealed

Also I was doing course content research, a top university has a lot more content and far more modules then a bottom tier.
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The premise may be true (there may be differences in workload depending on the subject and who's teaching it), but the conclusion is shet

I'm actually surprised that the OP isn't a one-gem troll.
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Yawwwwnnnnnnn!
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Things like this make me want to quit TSR forever :facepalm:
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A first is given to a certain percentile of the cohort. Also, the exams are written by the Universities and not an external exam board, so I assume the 'lower' universities have easier exams lol. What you should really be asking is; why bother doing a degree other then a STEM one, unless it's at oxbridge.
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(Original post by King Arthur 284)

In other words a university outside the top tier, are pretty much worthless.
So you've picked top 30 as a representation of the top tier because why? Seems like an awfully arbitrary number.

You're happily ignoring that "top tier" unis have stronger students, which is reflected by harder content. If the distribution of Firsts is as uniform as you imply (which it isn't), that suggests a First is a totally objective measure when the university is taken into account.

And your evidence that students who graduate from non-top 30 unis have wasted their time on worthless degrees is what?

It's like you're not even trying.
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Sorry to break it but your state of the art very exquisite research doesn’t add up, I know someone who went to a ‘top 10’ but still works in retail and someone who went to a ‘below average’ uni who now earns 40k+ a year in their field of study 2 years after graduating. Truth is it’s all down to who you are and what your real capability is because real life is different than the life you know in books.
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Well, the reason people do is that they can use their degrees from other non top 30 universities to compete for largely the same jobs when they graduate.

Generally, the subject of a degree matters more than the place where you studied it.
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Why study Dentistry at UCLan when you can study it at Cambridge innit
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(Original post by King Arthur 284)
In other words a university outside the top tier, are pretty much worthless.
Conversely... Going to all that effort and hard work to get in to and then succeed at a top uni is massively wasting your time and energy when you can get the same result ("First in English") from a uni where you can relax.
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Because some people want to go to university but perhaps:

a) They don't necessarily like the top ones
b) They want to stay at home and the top 30 don't allow that
c) They don't have the grades to go to a top uni

There's no need to judge people
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(Original post by Dentist2024)
A first is given to a certain percentile of the cohort. Also, the exams are written by the Universities and not an external exam board, so I assume the 'lower' universities have easier exams lol. What you should really be asking is; why bother doing a degree other then a STEM one, unless it's at oxbridge.
Employers don’t look at STEM subjects, unless you want to specfically work in that film. Like people who want to be lawyers studying law. People with History degrees for example from top universities land jobs like top banking positions.
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Other than anything else, the number of modules is completely irrelevant. Everybody does the same number of credits a year, they're just split differently. I'm doing 9 modules this year (8 which are worth 10 credits, and 1 which is worth 40 credits). My flatmate - same uni, different subject - is doing 12 modules this year, each 10 credits.

I would be surprised if it's true that top 30 unis do more modules than other unis, but even if it is true, that doesn't mean that they're doing any more credits. It just means that the work is being divided into smaller chunks at top 30s.
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(Original post by Acsel)
So you've picked top 30 as a representation of the top tier because why? Seems like an awfully arbitrary number.

You're happily ignoring that "top tier" unis have stronger students, which is reflected by harder content. If the distribution of Firsts is as uniform as you imply (which it isn't), that suggests a First is a totally objective measure when the university is taken into account.

And your evidence that students who graduate from non-top 30 unis have wasted their time on worthless degrees is what?

It's like you're not even trying.
30 is a subjective number, I meant those outside the standard classes as top that we all know.
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'Worthless' - without worth; of no use, importance, or value; good-for-nothing. - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/worthless

Could you explain how it's the case that many graduates are accepted onto Masters degree programmes and Graduate schemes despite having a 'worthless' degree?
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