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IB Maths HL portfolio - Elevator

Hi,

so.. i've just been set this maths portfolio and i dont get it! It's seems to be more physics and i never understood physics :s-smilie:

preferably anyone else doing IB and this portfolio is needed to help, but i'll post the question and see if you can help. it doesn't seem that hard, except that i dont understand what to do.


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the formula y=2.5t^3 - 15t^2, represents the position of the elevator, y, measured in meters (y=0 represents ground level) and t represents time measured in minutes (t=0 is the starting time). We know that the trip up and down the shaft, ignoring time spent at the foot of the shaft, is approximately six minutes and that the depth of the shaft is no more than 100 meters.

Use suitable computer software to visualize the motion of the elevator in the shfat. Create a table of values for the position of the elevator for t=0,1,2,3,4,5,6 minutes

1. Use these functions to:

(a) interpret the original vertical line motion simulation
(b) explain the meaning of the negative, positive, and zero values of the velocity graph
(c) explain the relationship between velocity and acceleration in the intervals when the elevator speeds up, slows down and is at rest
(d) evaluate the usefullness and identify the problems of the model in the given situation


Creating your own model


2. List the specifications for a redesign of the freight elevator model.

3. Hence, create a model fo your own

4. Explain how your model addresses the problems of the given model and satisfies the specifications of a well-functionoing elevator for th mining company.

5. Explain how your model may be modified to be useful in other situations


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Of course, im not asking to do it all for me :wink:, but i do need help !



Thanks

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Reply 1
anyone?

preferably some one else doing the portfolio, but if you wanna help ill post the questions :smile:
Reply 2
Hi,

so.. i've just been set this maths portfolio and i dont get it! It's seems to be more physics and i never understood physics :s-smilie:

preferably anyone else doing IB and this portfolio is needed to help, but i'll post the question and see if you can help. it doesn't seem that hard, except that i dont understand what to do.


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the formula y=2.5t^3 - 15t^2, represents the position of the elevator, y, measured in meters (y=0 represents ground level) and t represents time measured in minutes (t=0 is the starting time). We know that the trip up and down the shaft, ignoring time spent at the foot of the shaft, is approximately six minutes and that the depth of the shaft is no more than 100 meters.

Use suitable computer software to visualize the motion of the elevator in the shfat. Create a table of values for the position of the elevator for t=0,1,2,3,4,5,6 minutes

1. Use these functions to:

(a) interpret the original vertical line motion simulation
(b) explain the meaning of the negative, positive, and zero values of the velocity graph
(c) explain the relationship between velocity and acceleration in the intervals when the elevator speeds up, slows down and is at rest
(d) evaluate the usefullness and identify the problems of the model in the given situation


Creating your own model


2. List the specifications for a redesign of the freight elevator model.

3. Hence, create a model fo your own

4. Explain how your model addresses the problems of the given model and satisfies the specifications of a well-functionoing elevator for th mining company.

5. Explain how your model may be modified to be useful in other situations


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Of course, im not asking to do it all for me :wink:, but i do need help !



Thanks
Reply 3
What have you done so far?
Reply 4
ive plotted the graph of the formula and differentiated it to get the velocity and then got the 2nd derivative to get the acceleration; so i got all 3 graphs.

i just dont know where to go from there; i was never good at velocity/acceleration in physics and i dont even know what 1 (a) is asking me to do :s-smilie:
Reply 5
What is
jhomie
the original vertical line motion simulation
?
Reply 6
exactly lol, i have no idea, but thats the question

i think my teacher said something about the movement of elevators (in general) how the motion is a vertical line and that i need to compare it with the graph. i dont know what to do though :s-smilie:
Reply 7
OK If you plotted the descent as a vertical line this would just mean that the elevator took no time to travel from the top to the bottom or from the bottom top to the top.
Reply 8
i plotted the graph of the formula and it goes (0,0) (4,-80) (6,0) basically meaning that at 0 minutes its at ground level, at 4 minutes it reaches the bottom of the mine shaft and then at 6 minutes its at ground level again. The problem is that it then keeps on accelerating which is one thing i can right in 1(d).

the thing is i dont understand what to do for (a) (b) and (c)
Reply 9
jhomie

(a) interpret the original vertical line motion simulation

(b) explain the meaning of the negative, positive, and zero values of the velocity graph



a) As I said. instant descent and rise. Not a useful model.

b) It has negative velocity when it's going down, positive velocity when it's going up and zero velocity at the moment when it reaches the lowest point.
Reply 10
ooooh thanks!! the velocity is quadratic, i sort of get it now

what about (c), my teacher said the key is the acceleration, but i just cant see it looking at the graph and i forgot the relationshop between velocity and acceleration

thanks for your help, i have to go now, but ill check back again tomorrow
Reply 11
anyone?
Reply 12
i still need help if people can !!
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Reply 18
hey i'm doing the exact same portfolio right now!
i'm doing part (d) and i'm not sure what to write about.
i got a,b,c alright.
what have you got?
for my own model i think i'm going to do an experiment and record the time for a lift to travel from the top to the bottom of a building.
Reply 19
i dunno what to write for a b and c !!, but ive got d done lol

and i think ive got part 2 sorted, i jus thave to double check my formula and the velocity and acceleration of it

can you tell me what you wrote for a b and c?

and ill post by d and 2 when i double check