Man stabbed to death on a train in Surrey

This seems to ignore the fact that we have had a Tory government for nearly nine years and Surrey is a Tory area with a Tory council and a Tory PCC.

Yes because a Labour government would have let in less immigrants... Is that your argument here?

Please please please let it not turn out that the attacker shouted that famous Islamic phrase we all know by now before he murdered the poor chap.

It is, however, distasteful that people should use this deeply tragic situation to make such an overt political point before all the facts are known. The original point made (which we can assume was a back-handed reference to the London Mayor) completely ignored the fact this murder occurred outside of London in an area that the Conservatives hold all the local power under a Conservative government that has been in power for nearly nine years.

The actual reason why violent crime is rising everywhere in the UK is highly complex and involves many different strands of policy and resource allocation. Most of these factors (if not all) are way outside the power of the London Mayor, or come to that, any Local Authority - including Tory ones.

Yes it is distasteful, so why are you doing it?

I still don't know the point you are making? Are you saying this man wouldn't have had the urge to kill someone if another government was in? Or that if another government was in power then every train would have armed guards riding?

Usually when labourites say a problem is "complicated", or the even more blatant term "nuanced". It usually means the answer is staring everybody right in the face, but it's not the correct answer according to their dogma.

Al most a daily event and one which must have been a targeted attack one would have thought given the circumstances. Horrific for the other passengers .

Police have described him as a black male in his 20s or 30s.

Let me guess, the assailant was another white christian heterosexual male?

are you being sarcastic

It's actually a bit disgusting the way tragic incidents like this are regularly seized on by non-student participants in TSR, ageing white racist kippers and their fellow travellers. It's long overdue that TSR be limited to genuine students and similar, then at least we could get rid of this constant annoyance.

It's actually a bit disgusting the way tragic incidents like this are regularly seized on by non-student participants in TSR, ageing white racist kippers and their fellow travellers. It's long overdue that TSR be limited to genuine students and similar, then at least we could get rid of this constant annoyance.

You are waffling on about nonsense.

I replied to this comment: "Londanistan: lawless on an epic scale. Coming to a street near you on the election of labour politicians"

I reminded readers that this happened in Surrey, outside of London where all the power is held by the Conservative party, under a Conservative Government and therefore the reference to Labour was not correct.

You then reply: "Yes because a Labour government would have let in less immigrants... Is that your argument here?" This is a mind boggling, frankly nonsense reply, that needed calling out.

You're attempting to create an argument and you will never be satisfied with any response that does not fit with your agenda.

My hope is that reasonable people (whether they be Tory, Labour or Lib Dem) will see that you're troll who is throwing up Straw Man arguments.

The best way it to deal with trolls is to call them out.

if I had to guess where a black thug who stabs people is likely living. Between London and Surrey. I'm going to go with London. So the chances are your point makes no sense.

The reason I mentioned immigrants and Labour is because you are implying that another party in power would have resulted in this stabbing not taking place. I'm assuming you aren't talking about UKIP here but correct me if I'm mistaken.

Maybe I'd be satisfied with your response and maybe not. That would solely depend on the quality of it. But as you haven't offered any, I will safely assume you have none.

Call me a troll if you wish but in lieu of a proper rebuttal, it seems that you are the one throwing out random inflammatory statements and aren't able to back it up.

A teenage boy saw his dad being stabbed to death on a train. He’ll probably have nightmares for weeks, probably PTSD because of this.

Very sad that just eight hours ago they were both alive and probably looking forward to a day out in London or maybe to visit relatives somewhere and all of a sudden everything changes beyond your wildest nightmares.