Is there anyone here working class and poor who wants Remain?

here is a question. you are being raped. would you like to be raped quickly, or slowly?

that is the choice facing the worst off people in society. is it any wonder why 51.7% of the country voted out with millions wanting a clean break?

once we take back control from the EU, we should take back control from parliament and the house of lords too. just watch the coup in progress against brexit.

politicians like migrants to weaken the power of the country's natives and sign up to things to the EU so they can say "they had no choice" when it's what they wanted. get rid of the EU. get rid of the migrants. and if there's anything wrong left, it's solely down to the politicians. that's why they don't want us to leave.

"Anyone with a different opinion to me is poorly educated".

It's actually that kind of attitude the poor voted leave. They're sick of sanctimonious rich white illiberals spewing hate and bile like that.

I am working class and definitely not a remainer

Nor does an education make you know more about politics, observing politics over a number of years however does allow people to freely form opinions on political matters, and those opinions are every bit as important as those of any " educated" person.
The insinuation being made by some is that the more educated must know more than those with only a secondary level of education, they almost certainly do on the subject in which they specialise, unless of course the subject is something like politics which is all about opinion.

Nor does an education make you know more about politics, observing politics over a number of years however does allow people to freely form opinions on political matters, and those opinions are every bit as important as those of any " educated" person.
The insinuation being made by some is that the more educated must know more than those with only a secondary level of education, they almost certainly do on the subject in which they specialise, unless of course the subject is something like politics which is all about opinion.

Ah, the stick it to the establishment mindset that was drip fed to you by antiestablishment pillars such as the Daily Mail, the Express, Farage and Rees-Mogg.

I don't look down on anyone for being poor or badly educated however I do look down on people who so easily fell for Brexit populism.

Oh honey, did you shake Nigel Farages hand? Look at you getting into politics! You're trollish comments came about when you started making comments about what I thought of my country based off nothing other than your own views.

Then again when you suggested that we paid more into the EU than we got out whilst wilfully ignoring the fact that they are one of our biggest trading partners and we are losing out on that to a large degree.

As for human rights, whilst there may be some areas that I do not fully agree with (e.g. prisoners having the right to vote), on the whole they make it easier for people to claim against abusive institutions and prevent government oppression. : )


Good luck selling the 'human rights r bad' story on TSR tho. lol

Not every person takes the same skills away from their higher education but as a rule of thumb an undergraduate degree should encourage a level of critical thinking that a person might not otherwise have developed. At the same time a person carrying particular attitudes and assumptions doesn't necessarily 'freely form' opinions on political matters merely because they've spend a lot of time observing. Some people spout political ignorance all their long lives despite routinely exposing themselves to political media and information. In short, you're trying to offer up a flawed dichotomy. In short, neither youth nor age nor formal education nor experience is a guarantee that a person's political views are sound or authoritative. It's what people actually argue that counts.

Calm down you bloody idiots.

Just answer the question, keep it short, stop fighting with one another and stop acting like tw*ts.

It’s rather disingenuous to suggest that the average Leave voter knew precisely what they were voting for, rationally analysed the pros and cons, and correctly concluded that they would be better off leaving the EU. They think they’re “taking back control of our laws” but hardly being able to name any laws that the EU ever imposed on us that the UK didn’t favour already. On immigration, the literature marketed towards Leave voters had a big arrow pointing from Turkey to the UK, with neighbouring Iraq and Syria highlighted for some reason, despite these countries having nothing to do with the EU. And let’s not forget the NHS’s extra £350 million per week advert on the side of buses. Surely this should give us an idea of how poorly informed people were.

I think the point being made is more that the poorest and least educated people in society are the ones for whom the system supposedly isn’t working, and are therefore likely to vote for change due to dissatisfaction with the status quo, or to vote against the establishment due to the feeling that their voices are not being heard.

But these effects can overshadow the more crucial point of whether or not the change being voted on is actually beneficial for them. This is dangerous because any negative impact will be felt by them the most. If the number of jobs reduce, it will be the less educated and less qualified people who struggle to get them. If the economy shrinks, it will be the less wealthy who will become unable to make ends meet.

Define working class, first.


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I never voted in the referendum. Only got interested in politics last summer, long after the referendum had been and gone.

But seriously you treat the lower classes like scum then wonder why they revolt. While their children are being systematically gang-raped and slaughtered and while they're forced to live in poverty remainers live in their nice safe gated communities drinking champagne without a care in the world while calling the lower classes racists and bigots for complaining about their situation.

I wish I had voted in the referendum. The sovereignty issue aside I'd have voted just to spite remainers myself. As it stands though I support Brexit solely because I abhor authoritarianism and the EU is not a liberal order, for me liberty is priceless and thus there is no consequence too little or too great if it means preserving the value of liberty.

Besides, this is all one giant lie. The whole "only uneducated subhumans care about sovereignty and liberty" argument remainers like to peddle and cram viciously down our throats doesn't really hold up.

Tessa Keswick is highly educated. She isn't a "ignorant bigoted subhuman lower class scum". She was the Chancellor of the University of Buckingham.

Is Lady Anabbel Goldsmith an "ignorant uneducated lower class subhuman" too?

How about Woolridge? Sir Forte? How about that "thick ignorant uneducated" billionaire Will Adderly the deputy chairman of Dunelm? He's not doing so bad for a "racist uneducated lower class subhuman bigot" is he?

Terence Mordaunt? Lord Harris? How about Marshal of Marshal Wallace? (Hedge fund)? He's doing pretty damn good for himself as an ignorant uneducated lower class scum isn't he? Sir Michael Hintze? Tim Martin of JD Wetherspoon. Well I don't know about you, but I wish I was smart enough to have ended up with multiple pubs in almost every town across the country. How about Lord Farmer? They often give lower class subhumans lordships now'a'days do they for being ignorant and uneducated?

Michael Freeman? Peter Cruddas? Lord Bamford? Crispen Odey? For an uneducated person it's impressive how he's managing to hold down a job as a hedge fund manager WOW. Lord Edminston? How about the founder of Hargreaves Lansdown, one of the biggest financial monsters in the business and the most reputable in the business.. how if he's such an uneducated thicko and an ignorant lower class subhuman scum?

Sorry but this attitude from remainers is what tipped me over to the leave side, I had the same concerns as remainers but their attitude along with my concerns regarding the erosion of liberty.

I'll side with the racist, bigoted uneducated thick lower class subhumans. Thanks.

Myself and all of my family are working class, I'd say 90-95% of us voted to leave and 90-95% of us still want to leave.

Unfortunately the poorest, and the most poorly educated, tended to be most persuaded by the populist 'take our country back' rhetoric. The poor will suffer the worst consequences of a hard Brexit if it happens.

The poorest and the most poorly educated as you so very condescendingly put it, have been the ones that have been worst affected by our wonderful EU membership for so many years, our voices and concerns have been ignored so yes we are the group more likely to have voted to leave.
By the way can you please explain how a 22 year old with an art degree is liable to know more about politics and life in general than a 40 odd year old that has closely followed politics for the last 30 years or so, education does not equate to common sense and is no substitute for observing what is actually happening in the world.

I'd prefer to be raped quickly.

Your first point is, if I may be so bold, utter tripe
You do seem to discount life experience, when you are trying to pay a mortgage and keep a family fed you do tend to look at things a bit differently, it's all too easy to discount peoples actual experiences when sitting in an ivory tower.
People tend to become less idealistic and more cynical as they get older and for good reason.

So are you claiming that the disinformation was all one way and that the remainers campaign was 100% honest and forth right you must be having a laugh, they’re all liars it’s what they do they are after what’s best for THEMSELVES.

working class
noun
1.
the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
"the housing needs of the working classes"
adjective
1.
relating to or characteristic of the working class.
"a working-class community"



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