B1445 – Abortion Equality Bill 2019

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B1445 – Abortion Equality Bill 2019, Joep95 MP, Connor27 MP
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give fathers equal opportunity to abort parental rights before a child is born.

1. Definitions
(1) Father is the biological male parent.
(2) Mother is the biological female parent.

2. Legal abortion
(1) A father can permanently abort all parental rights and responsibilities to a child-
(A) up to 1 week before the abortion deadline; or
(B) up to 2 weeks after the father discovers about the pregnancy if the mother knew about the pregnancy 1 week before the abortion deadline; or
(C) at any point during the pregnancy with the mothers consent.

3. Process
(1) To abort all parental rights and responsibilities a father must communicate that they intend to by sending a letter by recorded delivery that has been certified by a solicitor to the mother
(2) The message must to clearly state "I am aborting all parental rights and responsibilities to the child you are currently pregnant with"

4. Extent, commencement, and short title
(1) This Act extends to the whole of the United Kingdom.
(2) This Act comes into force on the day on which it is passed.
(3) This Act may be cited as the Abortion equality bill 2019

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Let's do something to reduce legal inequality.

Since 1976 a right has existed for just one group of people and but not another, how in a society where people claim to support equality can this be accepted?
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So this allows a father to formally relinquish all responsibility for a child?
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Aye; though it may be appropriate to include a way for fathers to reattain rights if the mother agrees down the line, and a stipulation that they can only forfeit the rights if they do not live at the same address as the mother... otherwise things could get very confusing...
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EDIT. Should probably read it properly.

Not sure about this one. Does the father need to give a reason?
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(Original post by CatusStarbright)
So this allows a father to formally relinquish all responsibility for a child?
Yes
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I have more questions: can I be linked to the current legislation allowing mothers to relinquish parental rights, and what are you setting as the 'abortion deadline'?
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Yes
I take it you wrote the bill Joe, and not Connor.
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I have more questions: can I be linked to the current legislation allowing mothers to relinquish parental rights, and what are you setting as the 'abortion deadline'?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/87/contents

The abortion deadline will also be the deadline in that bill.
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(Original post by Joep95)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/87/contents

The abortion deadline will also be the deadline in that bill.
Oh hang on, so is this to be the father's equivalent of a mother having a foetus aborted from their body?
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At the end of the day the mother is the one carrying the child, so ultimately it should be up to her.
Can I ask you to explain what you think this Does?
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Can I ask you to explain what you think this Does?
See my edit.
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Oh hang on, so is this to be the father's equivalent of a mother having a foetus aborted from their body?
Well, abortion can be seen as the unilateral termination of parental responsibility - though it isn't the first thing that comes to mind.
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Oh hang on, so is this to be the father's equivalent of a mother having a foetus aborted from their body?
This is the fathers get out clause like is afforded to mothers yes
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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/87/contents

The abortion deadline will also be the deadline in that bill.
It may be good to define it as such in this Bill to avoid confusion.
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It may be good to define it as such in this Bill to avoid confusion.
That is on my list for a second reading or division
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Aye - justice for men and boys!
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Could examples of adequate and inadequate reasoning from a father for pursuing this be given?
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Aye - justice for men and boys!
There should be no boys needing to make use of this
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This is the fathers get out clause like is afforded to mothers yes
I see. This is why notes are very important Joe. I shall have another read through the bill now I understand its aims, but I will say I am receptive to the idea.

(Original post by Jammy Duel)
There should be no boys needing to make use of this
PRSOM

(Original post by Joep95)
That is on my list for a second reading or division
Add 'better notes' to that list
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I'd say this is an abstention in its current form as refinement is needed, in particular what has already been mentioned when it comes to "the abortion deadline", this either needs defining or rewording so as to more clearly refer to the point in a pregnancy at which an abortion cannot legally be carried out (exception x, y, z aside). Section 3 also doesn't feel quite right to me, I can't quite put my finger on what's wrong though. Finally I feel like there might be circumstances in which it should not be permitted (emphasis on the might) and as such a discussion should probably be had on whether there are any such cases.
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