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Why? Thousands of civilians die because of their greed, because of their evil. Why?
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Are you referring to something in specific?
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Are you referring to something in specific?
America’s invasions of Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, Grenada, Serbia, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somali, Sudan
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What do you mean by invade? A military force aggresively entering a country or a few people visiting for a holiday?
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What do you mean by invade? A military force aggresively entering a country or a few people visiting for a holiday?
A military force aggressively entering a country
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For a lot of countries, their militaries don't conduct themselves the same way as their civilians
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(Original post by lollipop102)
America’s invasions of Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, Grenada, Serbia, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somali, Sudan
For s start, although some of the modern middle eastern conflicts are a bit sketchy (including Iraq and the later stages of Afghanistan) and some Cold War invasions (although its not like the Soviets were better), half of those were during WW2. Take Italy and Nazi Germany for example. Was their invasions by Allied/Soviet forces not justified? Japan, although not invaded (rather nuked twice), although the bombings killed hundreds of thousands, in a way did it save millions of lives by avoiding a costly ground conflict in which millions would be killed, both military and civilian?

Canada in 1812 ultimatey culminated in Canadian/British forces (at the time they were the same thing due to Canada being a British colony) burning down the White House. And that was 200 years ago. Countries change a lot in that time (in the same way 80 years ago, the US was staunchly isolationist, and now look at it, or how the Japanese are peaceful now but before/during WW2 they were committing massive amounts of war crimes against military and civilians).
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(Original post by lollipop102)
A military force aggressively entering a country
Maybe because those countries are doing something wrong which affects its interests. If you have studied any history yet then you will see armed conflict has always happened.

Are you saying they shouldnt have fought Hitler?

Other countries have always invaded as a means of last resort. You are being very vague /naive.

These days invasions dont last for long and they leave.


What nationality are you and what country do you believe behaves without protecting its own interests?
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(Original post by lollipop102)
America’s invasions of Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, Grenada, Serbia, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somali, Sudan
You will need to put more details including dates down for which invasions you mean.
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Why? Thousands of civilians die because of their greed, because of their evil. Why?
What year are in you in at school?

Do you think there are any countries' whose actions haven't contributed to the deaths of civilians?
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All of these countries were in conflict before westerners arrived and many still are now. If you're going to demonise any specific people's you should at least be able to to provide an example of a perfect country that has done none of it.
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(Original post by lollipop102)
America’s invasions of Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, Grenada, Serbia, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somali, Sudan
Does this include the Second World War? Why didn’t the allies leave Hitler alone? :lol:
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(Original post by lollipop102)
Canada, Mexico, Panama, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, Dominica Republic, Honduras, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Spain, Germany, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria, Russia, Grenada, Serbia, China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Fiji, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somali, Sudan
whatever your country is I'm thinking of adding it to the list
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i moved your thread to history but next time create an argument to go along with your thread? :dontknow:.
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There is political justification that has to be done by every party that starts wars, whether it's by an ancient king/emperor or a modern president. It's usually pretty messed up. For the USA, some of the places you mentioned were basically places the US wanted to conquer and created or embraced false pretenses to do so (Mexican War, Spanish War which includes Cuba and Philippines). For many Latin American countries, it was to keep/push US-friendly leadership in power (often completely ignoring the will of the people and under "humanitarian" guises). The US military/CIA's Cold War destinations are the result of political work to demonize communist governments (which is mostly, but not completely deserved imo). The only ones I'd really defend are those from WWII, although the nukes were messed up and I'll readily call out justification for them ("ie avoiding a ground conflict") as bs.

It should be obvious from what I've said already, but:
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Other countries have always invaded as a means of last resort. You are being very vague /naive.
With total respect to you, this is patently false. The US empire has rarely ever invaded "as a means of last resort." In the Mexican War, the US did obvious work to invent a reason to invade its neighbor; the war didn't even have the support of most Americans. Not a single invasion of a Latin American country has a strong moral justification.

"Evil" is a term that doesn't help historical study, I think. The United States has a long history of being selfish.
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I must have been out on the days the United States invaded most of those.
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