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Hey everyone,

I applied to Trinity, solved 5 questions in the interview, then got an offer from Peterhouse. I was slightly disappointed to be pooled, but that was overwhelmingly outweighed by having a Cambridge offer.

I logged on to UCAS today expecting only to need a 1,1 in STEP II-III, since I already have 5s in eight APs.

But instead I got S, 1 (in any order) + a 5 in AP Physics 2 + a 5 in AP Physics C: E&M. I must've really stuffed my interview.

Anyone else get an S,1 offer, or even worse, S,S?
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Offers for international applicants are usually quite high. I don't know much about Cambridge Maths but most of my friends had 1,1 offer in STEP II and III.
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Offers for international applicants are usually quite high. I don't know much about Cambridge Maths but most of my friends had 1,1 offer in STEP II and III.
Do I count as an international if I'm an EU citizen going to school in the EU?
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Do I count as an international if I'm an EU citizen going to school in the EU?
May I ask, what country are you studying in? I'm pretty sure that APs are used in the US.
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Do I count as an international if I'm an EU citizen going to school in the EU?
Why are you doing AP?

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Why are you doing AP?

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I live in the Netherlands, but I live in area with a lot of American expats so there is a school that offers AP.
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I live in the Netherlands, but I live in area with a lot of American expats so there is a school that offers AP.
Which may be why they have given you a S,1 offer.
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Which may be why they have given you a S,1 offer.
Why is this? Does Cambridge see AP as a lower standard than A-Level/IB, or are they just harsher on internationals?
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Why is this? Does Cambridge see AP as a lower standard than A-Level/IB, or are they just harsher on internationals?
I imagine they simply want to ensure your maths is up to scratch.
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I imagine they simply want to ensure your maths is up to scratch.
Or perhaps there's a lot of American applicants so they'd like to take the best people that are doing AP? I mean, Cambridge probably wants to attract the best international mathematicians...
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Or perhaps there's a lot of American applicants so they'd like to take the best people that are doing AP? I mean, Cambridge probably wants to attract the best international mathematicians...
Perhaps, but I don't think Americans are particularly overrepresented. There's a lot more postgrad Americans than undergrads.
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Perhaps, but I don't think Americans are particularly overrepresented. There's a lot more postgrad Americans than undergrads.
I agree, if anything, Chinese applicants are the majority at undergraduate international applications.
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Thought I'd butt in, as I seem to be in a related, but contrasting situation.

I'm an American applicant who applied with AP's. I had 5s in Physics C (Both Mech and E&M), Calc BC, Stat, US History, European History, English Lang & Comp, and a 4 in French. I'm taking a few more AP's this year but none of them were particularly relevant to math, so they didn't make up my offer.

I too applied to Trinity. And it sounds like we did solved comparably many questions in the interview. (That is, presuming you meant that you did 5 questions during the test *before* the interview. Maybe I was particularly talkative and had a particularly short interview, but I would be greatly surprised (impressed), if you really did mean that you did 5 full questions *during* the interview. I think I did two.)

I however, got what seems to be the standard 1,1 in STEP's II,III offer. I would not thus put the blame for your higher offer strictly on the AP curriculum. (Although it certainly is possible that Peterhouse has a different opinion on AP than Trinity.) Having said that, it is possible that I had other parts of my application going for me that made the difference in my offer. (I did some neat stuff over the summers, worked through a few books, took some extra classes at a local college, made some cool software stuff. I was, however, never very good at contest math.)

While this does not directly relate to the offer above, I also must say that I find it odd that you are taking both Physics C and Physics 2 (and thus you have presumably taken Physics 1 as well.) At least in my understanding (and in the understanding of my school), these courses have a great deal of overlap, and while the 1&2 sequence is marginally broader in scope, the Physics C sequence just covers the same material in a more mathematical (caculus-y) way. Did you, perhaps, take one physics class in school and decide to take both exams just to get the extra 5?
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I imagine they simply want to ensure your maths is up to scratch.
But S, 1 is overkill for that purpose, since they take in plenty of people who miss the standard offer of 1, 1. One reason for higher offers is if you've already done STEP I (or II and III and are reapplying) and they want to make sure you don't slack off. I expect there are other reasons too, but I don't know any.
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But S, 1 is overkill for that purpose, since they take in plenty of people who miss the standard offer of 1, 1. One reason for higher offers is if you've already done STEP I (or II and III and are reapplying) and they want to make sure you don't slack off. I expect there are other reasons too, but I don't know any.
Perhaps but OP hasn't already done STEP :iiam:
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