Which of those two do you think is more likely to be well-informed when it comes to EU membership?
(Original post by Dez)
Life experience isn't just a matter of age. Ask yourself, who has more life experience: a 30-something who is bilingual, has travelled and worked in 3 different countries, or a 70-something who worked in a factory for 50 years, collected a pension then retired to do fudge-all? Which of those two do you think is more likely to be well-informed when it comes to EU membership? Which has the most to gain or lose from Brexit?
Its easy to forget living in well educated bubbles how many young people have utterly no interest in politics.
- When surveyed 31% of 25-34 year olds claimed to have no interest in politics, compared with only 21% of 65+.
- Knowledge of politics, when tested.. again came out at 37% of 25-34 year olds having a reasonable knowledge, compared with 66% of 65-75s
(Young people don't actually know more about politics and current affairs, just think they do.. just like at 15 teenagers think they know better then their parents at X/Y.. its a common trait of the young, but one you should have grown out of by now)
On average, my money is on the 70 year old.
for your other points:
Bilingual doesn't have anything to do with levels experience
90% of chinese 18 year olds I see every day are bassically bilingual dispite having basically no life experiance at all.
but sure, it is possible to find a very experienced 30 year old, who has more life experience then a very sheltered 70 year old.
Its irrelevant to the point though because on average, most 70 year olds will have more life experience then most 30 year olds. they may not have the trendy travel experiances of gap-year kids who have cycled through 10 countries, and spent a few months in Thailand.
On average they have:
A longer-range of experience in witnessing how situations develop and how the worlds change
They have experienced more wars.. and may have (if we get to 80+) lived through some
They have experienced life before the digital revolution
They have witnessed countless governments come and go
They have witnessed multiple recessions and boom periods
Most will have experience raising a child all the way from birth to adulthood, many will have experience having grandchildren
They have countless years more experience in problem solving, negotiating, fixing relationships, etc.
who has the most to loose?
Young people.. but they also have the most to gain, so its a moot point. Its never been a good argument against the involvement of old people.. the ethical ramifications of ranking how much people have to loose/gain by political decisions, and using that in any practical way to weigh votes, are awful.
I think you fall into the trap of not being able to see out of your own world view, and your own priorities, which are very youth-centric. So in terms of what you perceive value in.. language, travel, international experiences etc. Yes - young people have a great deal of experience. But really thats just a tiny part of life-experiance, and vastly outweighed by the experienced gained from raising a family and being responsible for a large and growing number of others outside of yourself.
The whole 'exception to the rule so the rule is disproved' is also irrelevant. Its as stupid as someone saying 'men are more physically strong then women.. so physical sex matters when it comes to determining strength' and you saying 'yes.. but some women are stronger then some men'... sure its true, just some 30 year olds have more experiance then some 70 year olds.. but their existance doesn't disprove the statement 'on average the older you are the more experiance you have' or 'on average 70 year olds have more experiance then 30 year olds. (we just dropped the 'on average' part in normal speach because its presumed)
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