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I'm a socialist!

Socialism and capitalism are very interlinked, dispite what the right are deliberately trying to eliminate from the minds of the electorate. There seems to be a huge movement to tar socialism and socialists with communism and communists
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Oh hi @PilgrimOfTruth Nice couple of quotes from two Conservative leaders. One whom was willing to see retiring war hero's and their families living in shanty towns before the socialist movement and the other willing to sell off socialisms success's and pocket the money to fund disastrous policies which disproportionately effected the poor.
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Oh hi @PilgrimOfTruth Nice couple of quotes from two Conservative leaders. One whom was willing to see retiring war hero's and their families living in shanty towns before the socialist movement and the other willing to sell off socialisms success's and pocket the money to fund disastrous policies which disproportionately effected the poor.
One of whom was willing to sacrifice everything a country had to once again defend Europe, it was the biggest sacrifice in history, we gave up Empire and power, he was a man of great principle who did the impossible.

The othere was a woman who knew that there would have to be some suffering for us to get out of the horrible economic position the left had put us in, she stood proudly on her convictions and managed to prevent even more damage from the evil communists that had plauged Britain, sure she had to do some very tough things that made her unpopular among some but she did what was right.
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One of whom was willing to sacrifice everything a country had to once again defend Europe, it was the biggest sacrifice in history, we gave up Empire and power, he was a man of great principle who did the impossible.

The othere was a woman who knew that there would have to be some suffering for us to get out of the horrible economic position the left had put us in, she stood proudly on her convictions and managed to prevent even more damage from the evil communists that had plauged Britain, sure she had to do some very tough things that made her unpopular among some but she did what was right.
Quite right.

Sadly the masses were subsequently duped as once again they were swayed to flip flop between Tories and Looney Labour and they gave us Tony BLiar, the man who once in power, immediately set about furthering the EU agenda, signing away our sovereignty with the various EU Treaties without consulting the populous and then taking us into an illegal war with Iraq, the outfall of which we are stull suffering.

Then they gave us the hapless arrogant Gordon Brown. The man who embarked on uncontrolled spending and pretty much bankrupted this country and also then went and sold off all our gold reserves for an absolute pittance to foreign interests.



Never Again !!!!
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One of whom was willing to sacrifice everything a country had to once again defend Europe, it was the biggest sacrifice in history, we gave up Empire and power, he was a man of great principle who did the impossible.
Aww the great empire let's return to such, it's not like it was built on slave trade and drug laundering... Oh wait
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The othere was a woman who knew that there would have to be some suffering for us to get out of the horrible economic position the left had put us in, she stood proudly on her convictions and managed to prevent even more damage from the evil communists that had plauged Britain, sure she had to do some very tough things that made her unpopular among some but she did what was right.
Britian has never been a communist state, nice rant but I believe you are confused. I think you may wish to reserch social housing availability, wages in real spending term, house affordability and many other social circumstances, maybe have a look at the gap between the rich and poor and the effect of Mrs Thachers 'doing what was right' as you put it.
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I think you may wish to reserch social housing availability, wages in real spending term, house affordability and many other social circumstances
There are plenty of decent jobs with decent wages. What it requires is for lazy people to get off their @rses and put the time and effort in to retrain themselves and make themselves employable and competitive. Still why do that when they can sit at home playing Bingo on their Smart Phones, watching TOWIE and Big Brother, enjoying beers in the garden whist the Bennies keep coming in?!!

No-one owes anyone else a job, or a house or home, or anything else. Everyone has to do what is needed to survive and get on and achieve the lifestyle they want. Those that constantly grumble about the have's and have not's are living in denial. Those who "have" typically sacrificed years of their lives in study and training in order to make themselves employable and consequently got decent jobs with decent wages and pensions. They deserve what they worked hard for.

The same choices are available to all.
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Aww the great empire let's return to such, it's not like it was built on slave trade and drug laundering... Oh wait


Britian has never been a communist state, nice rant but I believe you are confused. I think you may wish to reserch social housing availability, wages in real spending term, house affordability and many other social circumstances, maybe have a look at the gap between the rich and poor and the effect of Mrs Thachers 'doing what was right' as you put it.
I have never denied any of the bad things that the Empire did but overall the British Empire was overwhelmingly a force for good, without the war we may have been able to fully uplift those in our empire and be an even bigger force for good.

I never said that we were ruled by communists, just plauged by them especially within labour and the unions, as for the wealth gap I will let it be awnsered by someone far more experienced than me
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I believe the low point of the campaign was the murder of Jo Cox MP, perpetrated by a far right adherent.

At least try to mask your bias.
At least try to mask your bias. Unbelievably rich coming from you.

The murder wasnt exactly anything to do with the campagin nor was it supported/wanted by many if anyone who wants Brexit you using this as some kind of argument is pretty disgusting and disingenuous
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I have never denied any of the bad things that the Empire did but overall the British Empire was overwhelmingly a force for good, without the war we may have been able to fully uplift those in our empire and be an even bigger force for good.


You felt the need to pounce on me stating your unconditional love for the good old days and Mrs Thatcher. I have clearly upset you by simply stating the fact that socialists are not communist and that I am a socialist whom wishes to leave the EU. Regards the good old days you may wish to do some reserch, I think you just might learn something.


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I never said that we were ruled by communists
You clearly did, your words was and I qoute

*she stood proudly on her convictions and managed to prevent even more damage from the evil communists that had plauged Britain*

These was your words? You typed them right?
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You felt the need to pounce on me stating your unconditional love for the good old days and Mrs Thatcher. I have clearly upset you by simply stating the fact that socialists are not communist and that I am a socialist whom wishes to leave the EU. Regards the good old days you may wish to do some reserch, I think you just might learn something.




You clearly did, your words was and I qoute

*she stood proudly on her convictions and managed to prevent even more damage from the evil communists that had plauged Britain*

These was your words? You typed them right?
plauged does not equal ruled, I also clearly stated that some labour people were communists and so were the union leaders. not that we were ran by them.
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plauged does not equal ruled, I also clearly stated that some labour people were communists and so were the union leaders. not that we were ran by them.
No I'm sorry you are not correct, we had socialist movement, this is clearly what I am speaking of earlier in the topic, there has been a active deliberate agenda to blur socialism with communism. There was no communists in the Labour Party which had any power or significance in the 1970s. Your incorrect we was not plaged at all, building suitable housing, increasing workers rights, inporoving peoples wages and living standards, improving health and well-being of working classes.

Do you consider these policies a plague?
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There are plenty of decent jobs with decent wages. What it requires is for lazy people to get off their @rses and put the time and effort in to retrain themselves and make themselves employable and competitive. Still why do that when they can sit at home playing Bingo on their Smart Phones, watching TOWIE and Big Brother, enjoying beers in the garden whist the Bennies keep coming in?!!

No-one owes anyone else a job, or a house or home, or anything else. Everyone has to do what is needed to survive and get on and achieve the lifestyle they want. Those that constantly grumble about the have's and have not's are living in denial. Those who "have" typically sacrificed years of their lives in study and training in order to make themselves employable and consequently got decent jobs with decent wages and pensions. They deserve what they worked hard for.

The same choices are available to all.
The same choices are not available to all though, you seem very very angry and confused. It is far easier to demonise people than try to understand their point of view. It is much more easier for you to blame the poor for being poor, or the homeless for being homeless. It might ease your conscious for believing in abhorrent politics which benefits the very wealthy and punishes the disadvantaged but unfortunately it doesn't make it go away or make you're ramblings true
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Riots and civil war? This is Britain, we don't do that. We complain a lot instead. You may confusing us with France, where rioting, civil disobedience and even guillotining people in charge is considered par for the course.

Speaking of Thatcher, nothing she did was that original and it would all have happened anyway: she just sped it all up.
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Speaking of Thatcher, nothing she did was that original and it would all have happened anyway: she just sped it all up.
She was a disaster, whom raged war on a class. I'm struggling to think of one positive outcome of her premiership, national curriculum, right to buy, tax changes, selling off of the national accets, the war's ... It was just disaster after disaster.

As I said she was more than willing to sell off the success she inherited to pay for her regressive polices, now we have the task of rebuilding those assets. That speaks volumes..
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The murder wasnt exactly anything to do with the campagin nor was it supported/wanted by many if anyone who wants Brexit you using this as some kind of argument is pretty disgusting and disingenuous
Read what I wrote again. It was most definitely the low point of the campaign given someone lost their lives by someone proclaiming to be from one side. I get that it sucks you happen to support the same cause as the perpetrator, but there's people like that on both sides.

Thus, claiming that the left were the worst is incorrect. As far as I am aware, with respect to the Brexit campaign, no one has been murdered by someone in the name of Remain. That is just fact. I'm not sure why it bothers you so much.
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She was a disaster, whom raged war on a class. I'm struggling to think of one positive outcome of her premiership, national curriculum, right to buy, tax changes, selling off of the national accets, the war's ... It was just disaster after disaster.

As I said she was more than willing to sell off the success she inherited to pay for her regressive polices, now we have the task of rebuilding those assets. That speaks volumes..
Dude, I am not arguing, but those policies would have been carried out by another government later on anyway.

Entire industries were going to die because they could not face international competition or demand for their product was going to decline.
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Dude, I am not arguing, but those policies would have been carried out by another government later on anyway.

Entire industries were going to die because they could not face international competition or demand for their product was going to decline.
I don't disagree that the mines for example would of closed. At the end of the day the day it was the manner in which she carried it out that was the problem. At the end of the day the mines had been closing before but the framework was in place for the closing before they closed, Thatcher did not care much for this just go guns a blaseing and to hell with the poor communities, it crunched the unions and socialists and to her the lives she wrecked was a price worth paying.

The unions needed controlling, they did not need total destruction anyway enough about that witch.
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Thus, claiming that the left were the worst is incorrect. As far as I am aware, with respect to the Brexit campaign, no one has been murdered by someone in the name of Remain. That is just fact. I'm not sure why it bothers you so much.
Why do you guys on here associate the left with remain and the right with leave. It might be happening in Westminster at present but it does not represent the electorate.
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I voted leave. I find the amount of complaining about leave voters and how the EU have behaved in general hilarious to be frank.
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