University fees are extortionate when you look at what you get for your money.
For me, 9k per year of university buys me:
8hrs of lectures/week
3hrs of labs and tutorials/week
None of those contact hours involve any one to one time; instead you just sit in a massive lecture theatre joined by another 250 students. It begs the question, why do people pay these fees? You can hire a person to give you hourly one-to-one tuition for 30 quid. Instead at university, you end up paying significantly more than 30 quid to join a lecture theatre populated by a quarter of a thousand students.
The justification academics give is that university is about independent learning. Me personally, I think it's just an excuse academics use so they can avoid as much teaching responsibilites as they can get away with. I mean, why can't we just do independent learning at the local library rather than pay an institution 9000 a year?
To make matters worse, lots of people enter university under the impressioin that upon graduation they will get a professional job. But this is a lie and no one tells them! Lots of people graduate with 50k of debt and end up working in a low-paid or dead-end job after spending 3 or more years in education.
I'm nearly at the end of a computer science degree. I can't help but think I could have had a better education from Youtube and Udemy at 1/1000th of the cost of university! I mean, at my institution we don't even get any exam or coursework feedback. My university thinks a one-line sentence is enough feedback for 50% of a 20 credit course.
I would have no problem with this if university was free like the rest of the european countries. But at 9k a year, they need to provide a quality of education that justifies the 9k/year cost. Instead, they do the bare minimum and I could argue the education I received at my underfunded sixth form was a magnitude better than that of a world leading university.
I had my tuition cheaply back when it was around £1100 per year so I thought I would chip in.
I think the answer is yes, paying back a relatively small amount of student loan was very liberating and I have been contributing to the economy as I would otherwise not have. I'm sure it will be the same for others.
So in short I think it should be cheaper, but then who pays?!
9k is not really a fee. It is potential liability.
So it's not something which is really "paid", nor do people go to uni for the number of contact hours. They go to get a piece of paper. They are the people directly benefitting (and do so voluntarily*), so they should be the people paying up -- not the tax payer generally.
*This point is important, as it kills the riposte of "So the dying cancer patient should pay for his own treatment, not the healthy millionaires ...".
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(Original post by ecolier)
Before 1998 the UK also had a no university fee system.
I know. I studied my undergraduate degree just when they introduced the 1k fees...
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