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I have to choose between university of Sheffield and university of Sussex. Now the problem is that I feel that uni of Sheffield is better because it’s a member of the Russell Group, and is also one of the original red brick college. But for my course that is- BSc in Genetics Sussex is ranked higher than Sheffield. My agent says that I should go with Sussex, but the Russell group factor is confusing me (also my other choice is university of Manchester)
I realllllyyyy need help, for the international scholarships deadline are round the corner

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I have to choose between university of Sheffield and university of Sussex. Now the problem is that I feel that uni of Sheffield is better because it’s a member of the Russell Group, and is also one of the original red brick college. But for my course that is- BSc in Genetics Sussex is ranked higher than Sheffield. My agent says that I should go with Sussex, but the Russell group factor is confusing me (also my other choice is university of Manchester)
I realllllyyyy need help, for the international scholarships deadline are round the corner

Generally speaking, aim for the better course rather than the better uni. If Sussex has a better course, it makes sense to go for them

Do you actually know what the Russell Group is? Can you actually justify why Sheffield is better for being part of the Russell Group?

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Generally speaking, aim for the better course rather than the better uni. If Sussex has a better course, it makes sense to go for them

Do you actually know what the Russell Group is? Can you actually justify why Sheffield is better for being part of the Russell Group?

Absolutely. I'm predicted A*AA, and I am going to a non-Russel group, because the course I have found is much better for me. The skills that you can show are a lot more useful than just the name of a uni. The exact Uni that you go to is not as important (status wise) as it used to be, especially as alternative qualifications e.g. Degree Apprenticeships, are becomming increasingly popular.

Go with the course that sounds the most interesting for you- after all, it's a whole load of debt just to put the name of an establishment on a CV, make the time worthwhile and enjoyable for yourself!

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Why don’t you go on LinkedIn and search the course name? See where former students have ended up, should give you a clearer idea

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Absolutely. I'm predicted A*AA, and I am going to a non-Russel group, because the course I have found is much better for me. The skills that you can show are a lot more useful than just the name of a uni. The exact Uni that you go to is not as important (status wise) as it used to be, especially as alternative qualifications e.g. Degree Apprenticeships, are becomming increasingly popular.

Go with the course that sounds the most interesting for you- after all, it's a whole load of debt just to put the name of an establishment on a CV, make the time worthwhile and enjoyable for yourself!

Good Luck

I'm the same, got A*s and As across my GCSEs and A Levels and my uni isn't even in top 50. I don't have any complaints. If anything, being at a lower grade uni means the work is easier, I don't have to try hard to get my First and can therefore spend more time focusing on improving my skills outside uni.

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I'm the same, got A*s and As across my GCSEs and A Levels and my uni isn't even in top 50. I don't have any complaints. If anything, being at a lower grade uni means the work is easier, I don't have to try hard to get my First and can therefore spend more time focusing on improving my skills outside uni.

But Sussex is much lower than Sheffield in the league tables
Also, should I just keep my course in mind? I mean should I make my decision based on other factors as well or not?

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Why don’t you go on LinkedIn and search the course name? See where former students have ended up, should give you a clearer idea

That’s a great idea! Thank you very much!!

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Absolutely. I'm predicted A*AA, and I am going to a non-Russel group, because the course I have found is much better for me. The skills that you can show are a lot more useful than just the name of a uni. The exact Uni that you go to is not as important (status wise) as it used to be, especially as alternative qualifications e.g. Degree Apprenticeships, are becomming increasingly popular.

Go with the course that sounds the most interesting for you- after all, it's a whole load of debt just to put the name of an establishment on a CV, make the time worthwhile and enjoyable for yourself!

Good Luck

But isn’t Sheffield overall better than Sussex?
It’s really hard to make a choice when you can’t visit the universities!

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But isn’t Sheffield overall better than Sussex?
It’s really hard to make a choice when you can’t visit the universities!

You need to be looking at more than just league tables. Find out the employability rates of each course, find some other students on linked in like CityofMud said, and compare the courses the modules and decide what would interest you more. League tables change all the time, so it's really not that huge an impact on the quality of your degree.

Couldn't you persuade your teachers/parents to let you go anyway? If not, have a look at the pictures and Reddit reviews as well, they are pretty honest on there haha

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You need to be looking at more than just league tables. Find out the employability rates of each course, find some other students on linked in like CityofMud said, and compare the courses the modules and decide what would interest you more. League tables change all the time, so it's really not that huge an impact on the quality of your degree.

Couldn't you persuade your teachers/parents to let you go anyway? If not, have a look at the pictures and Reddit reviews as well, they are pretty honest on there haha

You’re absolutely right!
Thank you so much again. I really appreciate your suggestions. Must go and check Reddit out now haha!

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But Sussex is much lower than Sheffield in the league tables
Also, should I just keep my course in mind? I mean should I make my decision based on other factors as well or not?

League tables don't really tell you the whole story though. Oxford and Cambridge rank at the top of the league tables but you'd be hard pushed to say every single one of their courses is superior to the same course somewhere else. League tables, uni reputation, all these things give you no indication of what it's actually like to study there.

Generally no, you should be considering other factors. A good course at a bad uni in a city you don't want to live in probably isn't worth your money. Especially when you spend most of your time outside class. However what you place a personal value on is up to you.

Make a list of all the things important to you. Location, uni reputation, course strength. Be as in depth as you like, you can even list individual modules if you want. Then for each uni you are considering, rank the things that are valuable to you. If uni prestige is important, you might rank that out of 10 and if nightlife is less important you might rank that out of 5. Add all the scores up, see if there's anything that stands out as a problem and there's your answer

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I have to choose between university of Sheffield and university of Sussex. Now the problem is that I feel that uni of Sheffield is better because it’s a member of the Russell Group, and is also one of the original red brick college. But for my course that is- BSc in Genetics Sussex is ranked higher than Sheffield. My agent says that I should go with Sussex, but the Russell group factor is confusing me (also my other choice is university of Manchester)
I realllllyyyy need help, for the international scholarships deadline are round the corner

Deffo Sheffield, much more respected university, although course matters, would you rather pick UCL with a 'ok' course or Kingston University with a good course?

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You’re absolutely right!
Thank you so much again. I really appreciate your suggestions. Must go and check Reddit out now haha!

No worries

I hope you get to a uni that you feel happy in!

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League tables don't really tell you the whole story though. Oxford and Cambridge rank at the top of the league tables but you'd be hard pushed to say every single one of their courses is superior to the same course somewhere else. League tables, uni reputation, all these things give you no indication of what it's actually like to study there.

Generally no, you should be considering other factors. A good course at a bad uni in a city you don't want to live in probably isn't worth your money. Especially when you spend most of your time outside class. However what you place a personal value on is up to you.

Make a list of all the things important to you. Location, uni reputation, course strength. Be as in depth as you like, you can even list individual modules if you want. Then for each uni you are considering, rank the things that are valuable to you. If uni prestige is important, you might rank that out of 10 and if nightlife is less important you might rank that out of 5. Add all the scores up, see if there's anything that stands out as a problem and there's your answer

Can you tell me how do I find about the individual modules? Being an international student, it’s kinda hard to get on top of things sometimes
Also that’s some really great advice! Thankyou so much for it!

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I have to choose between university of Sheffield and university of Sussex. Now the problem is that I feel that uni of Sheffield is better because it’s a member of the Russell Group, and is also one of the original red brick college. But for my course that is- BSc in Genetics Sussex is ranked higher than Sheffield. My agent says that I should go with Sussex, but the Russell group factor is confusing me (also my other choice is university of Manchester)
I realllllyyyy need help, for the international scholarships deadline are round the corner

i would say that the russel group unis are recognised around the world for their qualification whereas other uni might not do that.

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I can see where you are coming from - what I would say is, compare the rankings.
Firstly, how much better is Sheffield than Sussex, and secondly, how much higher is the Sussex course rated than the Sheffield one? If it’s one or two places, stick with Sheffield. If it’s 10-12 places higher.. that’s unlikely to shift majorly over the next 3-4 years so it’s better to go with Sussex if you want a career in your chosen subject area.

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Can you tell me how do I find about the individual modules? Being an international student, it’s kinda hard to get on top of things sometimes
Also that’s some really great advice! Thankyou so much for it!

Some university websites will actually list the modules you study, even if it's just the module name with a brief description.

Other than that, you can get in touch with the uni (they may have additional information for you anyway as an international student.

You may also get lucky and find students on TSR studying the courses at the unis you are interested in. There are dedicated sub-forums for Sheffield and Sussex, if you post there or take a look around you might have luck finding students at those unis you can speak to.

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Can you tell me how do I find about the individual modules? Being an international student, it’s kinda hard to get on top of things sometimes
Also that’s some really great advice! Thankyou so much for it!

Sussex- scroll down a little bit:
https://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/under...s/genetics-bsc

Sheffield-click on the Modules tab:
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/prospect...do?id=C4002019

Hope that helps!

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Sussex- scroll down a little bit:
https://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/under...s/genetics-bsc

Sheffield-click on the Modules tab:
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/prospect...do?id=C4002019

Hope that helps!

Oh thank you soooo much!! I seriously can’t thank you enough for this!!

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Some university websites will actually list the modules you study, even if it's just the module name with a brief description.

Other than that, you can get in touch with the uni (they may have additional information for you anyway as an international student.

You may also get lucky and find students on TSR studying the courses at the unis you are interested in. There are dedicated sub-forums for Sheffield and Sussex, if you post there or take a look around you might have luck finding students at those unis you can speak to.

I seriously appreciate your help so much! Thanks again!! You’ve literally solved my problem!

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