V1444 – Abortion (Amendment) Bill 2019 Watch

Poll: Should this bill be passed into law?
As many are of the opinion, Aye (10)
21.74%
On the contrary, No (28)
60.87%
Abstain (8)
17.39%
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V1444 – Abortion (Amendment) Bill 2019, Joep95 MP


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BILL TO
Amend the abortion act based on modern day viability

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1-Amendments
(1) In Section 1(1) of the Abortion Act 1967 replace twenty-fourth with twenty-first

2- Citation and commencement
(1) This Act extends to the United Kingdom.
(2) The provisions of this Act come into force on Royal Assent
(3) This Act may be referred to as the Abortion (Amendment) Act 2019

Notes
The Abortion limit is 24 weeks based on viability however this was set in 1990 and science and technology has advanced since then with children born at 21 weeks surviving http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...e-parents.html
https://www.today.com/health/born-21...g-baby-t118610

This bill moves the limit to the point of viability.

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I have voted to keep the status quo which I believe is perfectly adequate.
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I'm No on this, not because of the Bill itself, but because I don't agree with viability > mother's (or father's) choice.
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Absolutely not. One or two miracles don't change that 21 weeks is not really a viable date. This is bad policy making and shouldn't be accepted by the house
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Absolutely not. One or two miracles don't change that 21 weeks is not really a viable date. This is bad policy making and shouldn't be accepted by the house
Well at what point can a baby survive?
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No definitely not
21 weeks is still too risky and you can’t ensure a survival at that stage.
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No definitely not
21 weeks is still too risky and you can’t ensure a survival at that stage.
You can’t ensure survival at any stage
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You can’t ensure survival at any stage
There is a greater chance at 24 weeks than 21
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There is a greater chance at 24 weeks than 21
There’s also a greater chance at 33 weeks and like 24 33 is just an arbitrary number.
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Well at what point can a baby survive?
The probability passes 50% (i.e. more likely to survive than die) at 24 weeks, hence why the limit is 24 weeks
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(Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
The probability passes 50% (i.e. more likely to survive than die) at 24 weeks, hence why the limit is 24 weeks
So a baby can’t survive at 21 weeks?
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So a baby can’t survive at 21 weeks?
It can, but it's not likely to. It's not reached the limit of viability (where long term survival probability tops 50%). As I've repeatedly said, gambling on low probability is not good policy
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accidentally voted aye, can i change to no pls??
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accidentally voted aye, can i change to no pls??
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accidentally voted aye, can i change to no pls??
As I'm now able to do that again, I'll change that for you before I declare the result.
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One Aye has been removed due to an ineligible vote by Xanimede.

Two Noes have been removed due to ineligible votes by EmCharles and GetTheLondonLook.

One No has been removed due to a double vote in seat 44 (Aph for Bluestar511).

One No has been removed due to a double vote in seat 48 (mr T 999 for London090).

One Aye has been changed to a No for seat 30 (saffburst).
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The Ayes to the right: 10
The Noes to the left: 28
Abstentions: 8

The Noes have it! The Noes have it! Unlock!

Turnout: 92%
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