So I'm in my first year at uni studying film production. I'm gonna be honest, I'm really not enjoying it. I LOVEEEEEEEDDDDDD college to bits. it was the best 2 years of my life. And I thought to myself, I could carry on studying film at uni to a higher level. People have also mentioned that uni was even "better" than college.
Now that I'm into my second term, nothing's really changed since the first term. I've realised a film degree is pointless as **** since no one really cares about it in the industry. They want experience. Secondly, because I'm really passionate about film, I learnt a lot in college and did loads of stuff on my own. I also made a few shorts films in my spare time. Now in uni, the stuff they are teaching us is stuff I've already learnt (Be it through college or my own studying). Also, they have taught us a few things which I know are utter **** and 100% wrong. I even mentioned it to my old college tutors and they were like "yeah that's wrong". Right now I feel I'm wasting my time and money. It feels like my life is going nowhere. Even if I finish my course in 3 to 4 years time, I'm pretty much gonna be in the same position as I am now. I ain't suddenly gonna be a filmmaker just because I got the degree. Another thing to mention is that uni is pretty much self taught. If I've taught myself quite a bit on my own before I even started uni, do I even really need uni?
I've been toying with the idea of changing degree to something like graphic design (I still enjoy it and it's my backup in case the film stuff doesn't work out) and carry on with my film stuff on my own. Alternatively, I've thought about working full time but still stay enrolled on the course and do course work in my spare time.
What would anyone advise?
University is a place for researchers like scientists, historians and perhaps philosophers. The main reason that people outside these categories attend university is to make social connections and develop their inter-personnel abilities. Otherwise it is a globally inflated system. That makes it just an extension of school really, which is a worthless system of it's own. When most people graduate, they still have that hopeless and lost sense of identity they had after graduating high school. You won't feel a difference unless you have made a difference in the world. Hence why university is most suited for researchers. I think that the modern university system is underdeveloped and it's quite stupid that people are forced to pay such extortionate amounts for such a pathetic spending of time.
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There are a lot of degrees that you can take that will harm your future earnings. After taking them, you will be predicted to earn less than if you'd just not gone to uni instead. Film is one of those degrees; it wasn't very smart to enroll in that one.
Uni is definitely worth it for employable, desirable degrees.
Most people are paying for the experience and powerpoints. In the end, you just end up with a 40K debt.
I totally understand where you're coming from! I had a similar issue in my first year - finding that everyone seemed to be telling me that I didn't need a degree in my industry to get a job (I'm on a comic arts degree). But the thing is, while you don't need a degree to get some jobs, it does help with job applications. It shows commitment (cuz you stuck out three years of non-enforced education), and actual proof of knowledge in that area. There are also tonnes of jobs that, even though they don't need degree knowledge to be done, require a degree during the application! Unfortunately, jobs that require 'a completed degree AND 3 years industry experience' are annoyingly common.
If your course leaders are teaching you incorrect things, have you considered changing uni? Finding a film course that's more inline with your ideals? This could also mean finding a course that puts more weight on finding you external, real world work that teaching you the stuff you already know.
Hope this helps!
Depends on a couple of factors really. For the OP specifically, I would advise switching degree or enrolling on a vocational course. But in general:
1. Science and mathematics degrees tend to have higher ROI (return on investment) because of higher starting salaries and/or projected earnings. There will always be exceptions and high-earning non-graduates, but on the whole, an English graduate will earn less than a computer science graduate.
2. Degree classification - a lot of placements and jobs require a 2:1, getting a 2:2 isn't a career-ender by any means but it does block out some opportunities and certain postgraduate courses/training.
3. How much you put into your study and extracurricular activities/societies. Societies etc help to develop people skills, communication and well-roundedness.
4. How much you are actually enjoying it. University, in general, is challenging by its very nature. If you don't like what you're studying, it will be hard to be motivated to do well which can then affect your classification and most importantly your mental and even physical health (which can have its own residual effects later down the line if it's severe enough).
hey girl well done for carrying on with studying about something you love
However have you applied for jobs yet? Get afew interviews some experience in getting yourself out there
I know there crying out for animators ?? Graphic design always good too!
dont worry too much yo uhave your whole life ahead of you
try control your thoughts etc x
No worst thing than wasted time hope you figure it out
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what do you mean - how can a degree harm yor salary ?
you could look at apprenticeships in fillm, places like channel 4, BBC and Viacom do them. then you can get more qualifications while gainging experience, i think thats the best path to go with something like film!
i have a question: my tutor was saying how she went to uni at my age and found it so easy, my other teacher didn't really like uni her choice was asian languages/studies. at college they kind of push too much onto us students saying you should/need to be thinking about what you want to do after and trying to get into good uni's but whats the point if its so easy? it was some design thingy it's putting me off wanting to go and honestly i don't see myself going, i don't even know what i'd study tbqh. none of the courses show me much interest and i don't like the self taught type of teaching either. i prefer actually being taught something otherwise it seems a waste. my mum knows someone going to manchester and he only attends 2 days a week+he's paying so much for the course, what a shame. i think people make a huge fuss of university then in reality it's kind of mundane.
I submit that anyone interested in acquiring a degree in hopes of improving their 'life-style' and earnings capabilities, should first consider the 'average' income of people who had acquired those degrees. Hopefully, the uni that you are consideering should be able to furnish you with a list of graduates who a> had acquired the degree you are considering, and b> were using it to earn a living.
Bear in mind that "average" income is potentially misleading. Included in the statistics are people who are young married women, who are partially supported by a spouse, and work only a few hours, so that they can devote the rest of their time to raising small children. Also included are 'graduate students' - who may be persuing a more advanced degree, whilst 'extending' their income by working 10 hours a week or so. You would like to have statistics that only included people working 40 or more hours a week in their degree area.
Consider whether you could live on what these people are earning. Other than a few areas: [medicine, law, enginering, IT], i think i would have a difficult time doing so. I would recommend going out and interviewing 5 or 6 individuals in a degree area you are seriously considering, find out what theyy would do differently in their education if they had it to do over, how much they make, and where they see themselves being in 5 yrs, 10 yrs & later.
In engineering (which is my degree area), i know that on 'this side of the pond', you would not be trusted with a project of 'significant size' - [which i have arbitrarily defined as $1 million or more in total cost]. You would not be trusted to manage, or even be the 'deputy' on a project of such size, without a master's degree. A bachelor's would not do it [as of 2018]. With a bachelor's degree, you could be working on it at the staff level, but would not be trusted to make any significant decisions. Bear in mind that the people who would be making the decision to trust you or not, would usually have (at a maximum) a bachelor's degree in engineering (that was probably 20 to 30 years old - with little real enginering experience in the meantime). This is neither fair, nor reasonable - but that is the way the world works - it's office politics.
Best of luck!!
Your very very right i like it
Thanks for all the replys everyone. I'm so for this very late reply. There have been some very interesting points people have mentioned. TBH, at the moment I am just sticking with it with the hopes that it will improve. I've applied for some jobs such as graphic designers and video editors.
I'm kinda liking/toying with the idea of changing uni. After doing some research and reading some of the replies, I think it would be beneficial to have A degree (Even though a film degree is pointless).
I also spoke to one of my old college friends who goes to Portsmouth university and from what he is saying, his course sounds so fun. He's mentioned how he's learnt loads and he actualy does practical stuff.