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It's funny how late in the day (rather in life) that one gets to discover something they should have from the get-go. I have a few that are too embarrassing to share. But I recently was told that the phrase "Be there or be square" was from the shapes, as in since you won't be around (a circle), then you'll be another shape (a square).
And is it true that a TV show's first episode is called a Pilot because it is the first to air?
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The precise etymology of 'pilot episode' is debated, but the likely source is from the adjectival form of pilot used in the following way (circa 1890s):

That serves as a prototype or trial prior to a full-scale operation or activity; experimental, initial.
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The 'square' thing was used in jazz circles in the 1940s to mean 'boring' or 'old fashioned'. I doubt it has any link to 'a-round' at all.
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I had an inkling about both (especially 'pilot'), but I also have a subsciption to the OED and can check it out quickly, ha.

My Nan was born in in the 20s and used to call people 'squares' all the time, actually!
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(Original post by gjd800)
The precise etymology of 'pilot episode' is debated, but the likely source is from the adjectival form of pilot used in the following way (circa 1890s):

That serves as a prototype or trial prior to a full-scale operation or activity; experimental, initial.
It's "pilot episode" as in "pilot light". A show's pilot was originally not aired, but screened privately to a studio's executives to get their gea or nay.
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It's "pilot episode" as in "pilot light". A show's pilot was originally not aired, but screened privately to a studio's executives to get their gea or nay.
Yes, 'pilot light' predating the TV useage by about 70 years.

But 'pilot light' also loosely fitting into the etymolgoy above given that it is the 'initial' spark leading to the larger event (boiler etc). One might also say that a recording given to the execs for approval is a 'prototype'.
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Yes, 'pilot light' predating the TV useage by about 70 years.

But 'pilot light' also loosely fitting into the etymolgoy above given that it is the 'initial' spark leading to the larger event (boiler etc). One might also say that a recording given to the execs for approval is a 'prototype'.
Yes, I was just more specifically applying it to this situation. It's also used of "pilot schemes" in government, medicine, et al.
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I love folk etymologies, which are proven incorrect by a 5-second Google.
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Yes, I was just more specifically applying it to this situation. It's also used of "pilot schemes" in government, medicine, et al.
Yeah!

Have you somehow disabled your rep? A few times now I have gone to click and it has disappeared, haha!
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Yeah!

Have you somehow disabled your rep? A few times now I have gone to click and it has disappeared, haha!
A few people have asked this... no I haven't.
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A few people have asked this... no I haven't.
How strange, I wonder what that's about :-/
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Yeah!

Have you somehow disabled your rep? A few times now I have gone to click and it has disappeared, haha!
(Original post by Tootles)
A few people have asked this... no I haven't.
I believe it happens when they change their settings to not show rep gems. It also takes away the rep button.
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I believe it happens when they change their settings to not show rep gems. It also takes away the rep button.
I see - that'd explain it, ta!
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I believe it happens when they change their settings to not show rep gems. It also takes away the rep button.
That must be new, my gems have been hidden for years and people have only started not being able to rep me. I figured it was a bug in the new interface rollout, it's damaged a couple of things for me.
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That must be new, my gems have been hidden for years and people have only started not being able to rep me. I figured it was a bug in the new interface rollout, it's damaged a couple of things for me.
Yeah, a lot of issus and less functionality.
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