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Clearly you've not actually seen his twitter profile. He regularly makes personal attacks against trans people, albeit always using screenshots rather than actual retweets/@-replies. He seems to usually save the latter for correspondence with other users in his little bigotry echo chamber.
I haven't. I understood, though, that it was the doggerel, which I have read, which was commented on by the police.

The use of the word 'bigot' as an insult doesn't work for me. It simply means someone who won't change their mind, and in almost all cases (including your use of it) the user of the word is just as bigoted as the intended target. Neither of you will change your minds.
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I haven't. I understood, though, that it was the doggerel, which I have read, which was commented on by the police.
It was one of about 30 tweets they highlighted as I understand it.

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The use of the word 'bigot' as an insult doesn't work for me. It simply means someone who won't change their mind, and in almost all cases (including your use of it) the user of the word is just as bigoted as the intended target. Neither of you will change your minds.
I'm always open to credible and scientific evidence about this sort of thing, there is a ton of things we don't know about when it comes to being trans. But when it comes to the anti-scientific rhetoric that the anti-trans lot constantly come out with, there is simply no point in wasting my time engaging with such tripe. Just the same as I wouldn't bother reading any arguments about why the Earth is flat or the moon landings were faked.
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I'm always open to credible and scientific evidence about this sort of thing, there is a ton of things we don't know about when it comes to being trans.
We do know that about 80% never have any kind of surgery,so remain in their birth sex, and we do know that many revert later, suggesting that the activists who have pushed hormones down their throats have done a lot of damage.
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We do know that about 80% never have any kind of surgery,so remain in their birth sex, and we do know that many revert later, suggesting that the activists who have pushed hormones down their throats have done a lot of damage.
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So?
So you conceded his points 😂
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So?
Well, I am glad you agree with me about the dangers of such activists being allowed to indoctrinate vulnerable people and to encourage them to poison themselves when all they need is counselling and patience.
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Well, I am glad you agree with me about the dangers of such activists being allowed to indoctrinate vulnerable people and to encourage them to poison themselves when all they need is counselling and patience.
Such activists who "pushed hormones down their throats" as you put it are obviously the extreme minority. More level-headed individuals (i.e. doctors) tend to be the ones to prescribe hormone medication in the majority of cases.
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Such activists who "pushed hormones down their throats" as you put it are obviously the extreme minority. More level-headed individuals (i.e. doctors) tend to be the ones to prescribe hormone medication in the majority of cases.
Unfortunately that comes after the likes of the extremist organisation, Memaids, has had its claws into the kids.
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Unfortunately that comes after the likes of the extremist organisation, Memaids, has had its claws into the kids.
Are you claiming that Mermaids has been force-feeding drugs to people? If so please provide some evidence.
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omg this guy is my idol i want to be a groomer i tried and the police found me during the act stupid police i wish i was as good as this groomer
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Are you claiming that Mermaids has been force-feeding drugs to people? If so please provide some evidence.
I never said anyone "force-feeds" anyone with anything. Mermaids is, though, an example of the extremist organisations that indoctrinate teachers and advisers to hold beliefs (with the claim that they are completelt orthodox in what they preach) that encourage them to encourage children to take active steps with regard to both hormones and surgery at far too young an age.
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I never said anyone "force-feeds" anyone with anything. Mermaids is, though, an example of the extremist organisations that indoctrinate teachers and advisers to hold beliefs (with the claim that they are completelt orthodox in what they preach) that encourage them to encourage children to take active steps with regard to both hormones and surgery at far too young an age.
They are a charity offering support and advice for a group of people (trans kids and their parents) that would otherwise have nothing and nobody to turn to. Calling them "extremist" is pretty misleading, they simply offer advice on how to find treatment, therapy and they answer questions on a topic that many people know very little about.

Anyway, while you clearly don't like Mermaids very much, right now they're the best option most kids have got. There are barely any other support networks out there for trans people, especially here in the UK.
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They are a charity offering support and advice for a group of people (trans kids and their parents) that would otherwise have nothing and nobody to turn to. Calling them "extremist" is pretty misleading, they simply offer advice on how to find treatment, therapy and they answer questions on a topic that many people know very little about.

Anyway, while you clearly don't like Mermaids very much, right now they're the best option most kids have got. There are barely any other support networks out there for trans people, especially here in the UK.
It advocates in favour of irreversible surgery for under 16s, and is run by a woman who took her child abroad to avoid the sensible strictures of UK law and with whom NHS specialists completely disagree. Fortunately, the Big Lottery Fund is reviewing its funding.
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It advocates in favour of irreversible surgery for under 16s
False.

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and is run by a woman who took her child abroad to avoid the sensible strictures of UK law and with whom NHS specialists completely disagree.
Disagreements with one woman don't invalidate the work of the whole charity. If anything this just shows that more funding in transgender support is needed, so that professional and experienced people can provide the correct advice, rather than relying on laypersons to fill the gap.

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Fortunately, the Big Lottery Fund is reviewing its funding.
Yes, after Mumsnet TERFers decided to organise an attack campaign against them. Quite why they think its any of their business I'll never know, but thankfully their actions have in fact resulted in more funding for the charity rather than less, after the online fundraiser it ended up inspiring.
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False.
Its main spokesman and CEO inflicted exactly that on her child.
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Its main spokesman and CEO inflicted exactly that on her child.
No, her child had surgery after she turned 16. It's true that they went abroad to do this, but under UK law 16-year-olds can consent to their own medical treatment, so that's irrelevant.
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Yes, after Mumsnet TERFers decided to organise an attack campaign against them. Quite why they think its any of their business I'll never know
Ah, the joys of intersectionality!

Mumsnet TERFers too. Wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of them. It would be like getting in the bad books of the local WI. Nasty...
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/p...-say-theyre-wo

Surprised? Not really, the police just don't know what to do with themselves.
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It feels like time to return to the subject matter of the thread. As ever it tends to get derailed.

So let's recap what actually happened. A former policeman himself, a man named Harry Miller, was questioned by the Humberside Constabulary for "liking" a tweet which contained a "limerick".

Mr Miller, who believes 'trans women are not women', says the formal probe by Humberside Police was into his 'thinking' and his reasons for liking the limerick on Twitter...

'Cop said he was in possession of 30 tweets by me,' he recalled on Twitter. 'I asked if any contained criminal material. He said "No."

'I asked if any came close to being criminal and he read me a limerick. Honestly. A limerick. A cop read me a limerick over the phone.'


Luckily the copper said it wasn't criminal but would be recorded as a "hate incident."

The tweet contained the following (which isn't actually a limerick):

"Your breasts are made of silicone
Your vagina goes nowhere
And we can tell the difference
Even when you are not there
Your hormones are synthetic
And let's just cross this bridge
What you have, you stupid man
Is male privilege."


Any society which allows the police to legally investigate a citizen for checking the heart icon under a tweet containing such a verse can no longer call itself free.

It is as simple as that.
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Clearly you've not actually seen his twitter profile. He regularly makes personal attacks against trans people, albeit always using screenshots rather than actual retweets/@-replies. He seems to usually save the latter for correspondence with other users in his little bigotry echo chamber.
You see you say attack but that's not what happened.The guy didn't attack anyone.He didn't verbally abuse anyone.He clicked a button on a screen.The sensible approach to that would either be to ignore it or simply turn off the screen.Calling the police is a massive overreaction and them actually coming out is ridiculous.No crime was committed so it's not a police matter at all.You don't even have to agree with him to realise that.If you can now get investigated for liking things online it suggests the police have nothing better to do.Its the kind of thing that would happen in China.
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