(Original post by Abaddon rex)
I am not trying to play an individual blame game there is enough guilt and incompetence to go round all sides, I am sorry about the effect on the business you work for, I don’t wish anyone any bad fortunes in any way even if they disagree with me. You are kind of agreeing with my point when you talk about vanity and ideology and that’s the point they’re all to bothered about how things will affect them individually and are not really working on doing the best job they can. The thing I don’t get is this why can’t we leave the EU and then have a new agreement with them that suits both parties whilst we remain separate from them? I
f that sort of thing had been worked out instead of all the idiocy things would be looking much rosier for all involved after leaving the EU doesn’t mean we can never talk or trade with them again it just means an end to the current situation.
Irish border is main political sticking point.
Issues with product conformity and standards recognition through mutually recognised regulatory bodies is next major issue.
Tariffs and cost re same is possibly the simplest issue.
Services is a write off (and given the UK is a services based economy it is strange the UK has taken this approach) and nothing on table re them really to discuss, which is tricky as quite a few contracts cover both goods and services.
Professional recognition looks a disaster at present, my brother in law is a QP (Qualified Person) in the pharma industry, currently about 75% of his income as a consultant is cross border, most of that into Europe, but even for those contracts he does in say Australia the holding companies tend to be European and are unlikely to use his services if his professional qualifications are not recognised in the EU.
The catch is despite being members of the EU for all these years we never really understood its philosophy, the four freedoms are its central underlying planks, the EU imho is not, and never was, going to allow us to undermine these tenets, if we want access like we had it will need to be a form of EEA/EFTA deal involving both Customs Union and Single Market, we have ruled these out and therefore are where we are.
The politicians on our side , having not really done their homework re how the EU works or what was the art of the possible, have put barriers in place to any such access deal that will not cause us a financial cost.
At the end of the day Brexit is like a set of scales, sovereignty (or at least an impression/illusion of same) versus economics, they key is how much of one we are prepared to give up for the other, but fully having both was never an option despite the impression some politicians may have given