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THE WORKERS UNION PARTY PRESENTS THE WORKER'S MANIFESTO.

  • The Workers will own and control the means of Production
  • The Workers will control the means of Justice
  • The Worker’s will be entitled to equality, justice, and freedom



VIEW FULL 25 PAGE MANIFESTO HERE https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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WHAT IS THE WORKERS' UNION PARTY?
The Worker's Union Party (WUP) is a socialist populist party for the people by the people. We appeal to those on the left and the right through all policies of social welfare, nationalisation, equality and a strong justice system.
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That manifesto provides a wonderful explanation of why old-fashioned socialism is so unpopular.
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That manifesto provides a wonderful explanation of why old-fashioned socialism is so unpopular.
What's wrong with it?

New socialism is fake socialism.
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Are there any workers these days? I thought we were all employees free to choose the terms of our employment by going elsewhere should we not like the terms we are currently on. I used to work in the private sector but now work in the public sector in a heavily unionised profession. I would say I have less opporunity now because every employer is offering the same terms thanks to the unions. I kind of work in an anti-worker environment. Still, I guess that is socialism for you?
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Are there any workers these days? I thought we were all employees free to choose the terms of our employment by going elsewhere should we not like the terms we are currently on. I used to work in the private sector but now work in the public sector in a heavily unionised profession. I would say I have less opporunity now because every employer is offering the same terms thanks to the unions. I kind of work in an anti-worker environment. Still, I guess that is socialism for you?
The term Workers is used by the WUP to refer to the working class as a whole
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The term Workers is used by the WUP to refer to the working class as a whole
Is there still a "working class"? In my mind, those we might term working class is generally the long term sick / unemployed, unskilled or those who are not prepared to upskill themselves / put in a bit of effort.

I mean - if there is a working class, who are the middle classes when you take into account all the new professions?
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Is there still a "working class"? In my mind, those we might term working class is generally the long term sick / unemployed, unskilled or those who are not prepared to upskill themselves / put in a bit of effort.

I mean - if there is a working class, who are the middle classes when you take into account all the new professions?
Established middle class

Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals.[40]
Technical middle class

The technical middle class, about 6% of British society, shows high economic capital, very high status of social contacts, but relatively few contacts reported, and moderate cultural capital. Occupations represented include medical radiographers, aircraft pilots, pharmacists, natural and social science professionals and physical scientists, and business, research, and administrative positions.[41]
New affluent workers

New affluent workers, about 15% of British society, show moderately good economic capital, relatively poor status of social contacts, though highly varied, and moderate highbrow but good emerging cultural capital. Occupations include electricians and electrical fitters; postal workers; retail cashiers and checkout operatives; plumbers and heating and ventilation engineers; sales and retail assistants; housing officers; kitchen and catering assistants; quality assurance technicians.[41]
Traditional working class

The traditional working class, about 14% of British society, shows relatively poor economic capital, but some housing assets, few social contacts, and low highbrow and emerging cultural capital. Typical occupations include electrical and electronics technicians; care workers; cleaners; van drivers; electricians; residential, day, and domiciliary care [41]
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A lot of it is very good but some if it is dumb, stupid and immoral.

In what sane world Is benefit fraud worse than paedophilia?

You’ve cucked on the LGB bit and the anti ‘Racism’ bit. The only people that is going to appeal to is to people who hate you and would never vote for you (Antifa types) whilst putting off those who would vote for you.

You should check out the sadly now defunct Traditionalist Workers Party in the US.,


look at how China deals with race and lgbt issues: homosexuality is outlawed and Muslims are put in concentration camps
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That manifesto provides a wonderful explanation of why old-fashioned socialism is so unpopular.
Good thing there is a resurgance of modern (or should I say post modern?) socialism :yeah:
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A lot of it is very good but some if it is dumb, stupid and immoral.

In what sane world Is benefit fraud worse than paedophilia?

You’ve cucked on the LGB bit and the anti ‘Racism’ bit. The only people that is going to appeal to is to people who hate you and would never vote for you (Antifa types) whilst putting off those who would vote for you.

You should check out the sadly now defunct Traditionalist Workers Party in the US.,


look at how China deals with race and lgbt issues: homosexuality is outlawed and Muslims are put in concentration camps
You don't make sense: i'm attracting people who awould hate me and would never vote for me but i am putting off people would would vote for me

Name everything that you are unhappy about and i will review it if i deem you've made a point

I will have a look at the paedopophillia/benefit fraud section but i think people who try and claim benefits unlawfully are terrible people. maybe not worse than paedphiles but when people actually are on the streets and being killed because of the cold......well if anything the sentencing sends out more of deterrent.

I had to appeal to LGB because realistically more people are gay than before and they would need a party that would suport them.
I believe many gays/lesbians would be more likely to vote for me than say labour because i support them over transgenders. transgenders are criticised by many in the gay community.

Anti racism? again, from a personal stand point i hate racism, and also again i'm trying to appeal to those more moderate leftwingers who might be swayed by lib dems.

My voter base would consist of traditional leftwing, euroscopetic left, euroscpetic right and of course far left and i guess some on the far right would also vote for me although again not too sure.

You would never be able to outlaw homosexuality, not when its been legalised already. i don't support gay marriage, but no political party that wants to get into power will realistically try and reverse a deciison that's been fought for for decades. It would be politicial suicide.

Muslims in concentration camps? Well its china so anything can happen, but again, i am not a nazi, i don't like some islamist ideologies...but like zionism, islamism is a political ideology not an actual religion. again, political suicide and alienating a potentially very large voter base. conservative muslims may support some of my policies such as ending foreign intervention in the middle east, ending general mass surveillance and tougher stance on racism and on transgenderism.
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Good thing there is a resurgance of modern (or should I say post modern?) socialism :yeah:
Comrade, do you want to join me so we can SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION?
What did you think of my manifesto?
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You don't make sense: i'm attracting people who awould hate me and would never vote for me but i am putting off people would would vote for me

Name everything that you are unhappy about and i will review it if i deem you've made a point

I will have a look at the paedopophillia/benefit fraud section but i think people who try and claim benefits unlawfully are terrible people. maybe not worse than paedphiles but when people actually are on the streets and being killed because of the cold......well if anything the sentencing sends out more of deterrent.

I had to appeal to LGB because realistically more people are gay than before and they would need a party that would suport them.
I believe many gays/lesbians would be more likely to vote for me than say labour because i support them over transgenders. transgenders are criticised by many in the gay community.

Anti racism? again, from a personal stand point i hate racism, and also again i'm trying to appeal to those more moderate leftwingers who might be swayed by lib dems.

My voter base would consist of traditional leftwing, euroscopetic left, euroscpetic right and of course far left and i guess some on the far right would also vote for me although again not too sure.

You would never be able to outlaw homosexuality, not when its been legalised already. i don't support gay marriage, but no political party that wants to get into power will realistically try and reverse a deciison that's been fought for for decades. It would be politicial suicide.

Muslims in concentration camps? Well its china so anything can happen, but again, i am not a nazi, i don't like some islamist ideologies...but like zionism, islamism is a political ideology not an actual religion. again, political suicide and alienating a potentially very large voter base. conservative muslims may support some of my policies such as ending foreign intervention in the middle east, ending general mass surveillance and tougher stance on racism and on transgenderism.
It makes perfect sense. As a rough example a very Conservative party (pro death penalty, anti gay marriage) having a policy giving tax benefits to trans people or something. It would piss if the party main base of support and the only people that would suppport the policy would never vote for the party in a million years.

The overwhelming majority of lgb people duppprt trans people. LGB people should be tolerated at best not supported and encouraged.

Racism doesnt mean anything anymore , if it ever did. It’s just what liberals call things they don’t like. I have friends from different ethnicities and as an employer I’m entirely meritocratic. Yet I suppprt homogenous societies as the best model for civilisation and as such would favour policies that most people would consider racist- eg restricting non white immigration. In that sense I am a white nationalist but I am not a white suptemacist which ironically is what our ‘ ‘non racist’ liberal overlords are as they want international western banks run by people like Soros and Greenberg to dictate to black and brown people how they should run their societies.

As to whether a party could be elected to overturn gay marriage, this could easily be done and would be far easier and less radical than your other policies. Surprised you’ve taken such a conservative (in terms of temperament) stance on this. As for outlawing homosexuality, not straight away no.

I strongly support islamism in their own countries, not ours.
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It makes perfect sense. As a rough example a very Conservative party (pro death penalty, anti gay marriage) having a policy giving tax benefits to trans people or something. It would piss if the party main base of support and the only people that would suppport the policy would never vote for the party in a million years.

The overwhelming majority of lgb people duppprt trans people. LGB people should be tolerated at best not supported and encouraged.

Racism doesnt mean anything anymore , if it ever did. It’s just what liberals call things they don’t like. I have friends from different ethnicities and as an employer I’m entirely meritocratic. Yet I suppprt homogenous societies as the best model for civilisation and as such would favour policies that most people would consider racist- eg restricting non white immigration. In that sense I am a white nationalist but I am not a white suptemacist which ironically is what our ‘ ‘non racist’ liberal overlords are as they want international western banks run by people like Soros and Greenberg to dictate to black and brown people how they should run their societies.

As to whether a party could be elected to overturn gay marriage, this could easily be done and would be far easier and less radical than your other policies. Surprised you’ve taken such a conservative (in terms of temperament) stance on this. As for outlawing homosexuality, not straight away no.

I strongly support islamism in their own countries, not ours.
Sure, okay but again as I have already said: you will never have a chance of forming any kind of mainstream party with those views. People are more tolerant to socialist views in britain than say america because we are just in general more of a socialist country in terms of universal healthcare and having had nationalisation.

Why should homosexuality be outlawed?
I don't support "fashionable" homosexuality. Meaning i believe you are born gay or straight and I don't get the idea of being bisexual.
The WUP is not a facist party and generally socialism stands against facisim although as you and I have seen socialism is a concept that is actually shared by the far left and far right. for example, hitler's party was called the national socialist party. Hitler's claim to hate communists IMO only seem to be based on the fact that most of the Jews in Europe at that time were Communists, and had led the Russian Revolution. But I don't support hitler.

You can't just simply restrict immigration except for non whites. I mean trump has basically tried to do that and he's had to scale it back. There are bad people from every race. There are bad jews, there are bad blacks, there are bad asians but there also good asians, good blacks, good jews, just like there are bad whites and good whites. And in some ways some races, such as african people from former british colonies, have far more in common with us than say Polish people or Romanian. Yes we might both be europeans but our denominations are different and so our cultures and language. yes different african cultures but the thing is most africans like the UK where most eastern europeans simply move to the uk to get a job for a while then move back home. This will be especially true with poland, it's now in the eu and is becoming a highly developed country. i don't see the same happening with romania or albania any time soon.

As I said, who do you think (in terms of poltiical views ie liberals/socialists/facists would support me.

The aim of my party is to unite right wing and left wing working classes on the premise of a better country.

I would probably claim to support LGBT but later pass legislation against transgenders. On a personal level I do not like transgenderism and i intend to use this to get voter support on the right.
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Honestly, what is it about socialism that scares you so much? is it the thought we are going to take all your money.....XD
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This is what happened in the British car industry.

It's why the British car industry doesn't exist anymore.
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This is what happened in the British car industry.

It's why the British car industry doesn't exist anymore.
What happened in the British car industry?
The reason the British car industry doesn't exist any more is because of the EU.
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THE WORKERS UNION PARTY PRESENTS THE WORKER'S MANIFESTO.

  • The Workers will own and control the means of Production
  • The Workers will control the means of Justice
  • The Worker’s will be entitled to equality, justice, and freedom



VIEW FULL 25 PAGE MANIFESTO HERE https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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WHAT IS THE WORKERS' UNION PARTY?
The Worker's Union Party (WUP) is a socialist populist party for the people by the people. We appeal to those on the left and the right through all policies of social welfare, nationalisation, equality and a strong justice system.
Hard labour for being homophobic.
Re-education courses for transgender people.
Put people under surveillance for trying to "influence the Government". In a democracy.
Nationalise every utility company.
Kidnap obese children.

I was hesitant at first, but it's been a fun read. Thanks.
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