The manufacture side of design might become more automated but the start of the design process never can be as you can't replicate creativity with a robot.
(Original post by Acsel)
Reduces human interaction which is vital for health: At least with regards to the options in the poll, some of them don't require interaction. Gardening and driving for example aren't always social. And are repetitive tasks worse for your health than the lack of social interaction you'd get from working said menial job? I'd also argue for something like driving, a car driven by an AI actually increases the social aspect. Without the need to drive, you are now free to do what you like.
Creative manual jobs are something where a robot could do it, but some people will still want that human element. The practical side of having something like a Roomba for mowing grass isn't far off, but completely autonomous robots that can do a wider variety of garden tasks like a human are somewhat a ways away.
'Gardening' is a funny one, although lots of people call stuff gardening, it's pretty much a professional role like plumber or electrician and requires a LOT of skills. It's mainly a knowledge/decision making role so the main limiting factor for automation is most likely AI development/cost. (not that people won't be still working on it)
The real ones who are getting it in the neck are the grounds maintenance, farm labour and nursery workers...they're the ones with the highly repetitive roles and automation is making great strides there, I've had tours of some seriously impressive robotic facilities and feel it's not so much cost as the fact that well designed automation can complete tasks with a speed and accuracy people simply can't match. As you say, robot mowers are a big thing in development, closely linked to battery development, adoption of batteries by local authorities for green work is my main uni topic so ill be away to talk to all the councils and manufacturers and i suspect a desire to develop and move to robotics will come up more than once.
I suppose automation is a large reason I returned to uni, I worked in grounds maintenance toting a mower or strimmer of some sort and enjoyed it fine, but the progression is crap and you're very aware of national cutbacks and a push for efficiency, so i've returned to uni in an attempt to transition from a mostly physical worker to a knowledge worker and get ahead of the curve of skilled VD unskilled.
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A man walks up to a construction site foreman in the street.
He says "This is outrageous! If it wasn't for your digger, ten men with shovels could be doing that job!"
The foreman replies "And if it wasn't for your shovels, 100 men with teaspoons could be doing this job."
Computers are good at anything whereby outcomes can be defined in un-ambiguous objective terms, many of today's jobs are indeed easily measurable in entirely objective terms because they are wholly prescriptive - for example, a lot of clerical jobs are all about administration and following rules so it's easy to imagine a scenario where all of those are replaced entirely by automated processes. However, this completely ignores the fact that humans need to be involved in the first place before the automated process can ever exist because they're the ones who invent the rules.
Automation has been happening for a long time and usually resulted in better efficiency, accuracy, reliability, safety, cost-saving and human assistance but has never managed to replace humans altogether - the humans have simply moved from being the ones who are doing the work to those who create, control, maintain and monitor the automated systems. Fewer humans are needed to control an automated system, but that just means we can increase productivity by having the same number of humans being able to get a lot more done by delegating all the real work to the automated system.
Of course, we could easily imagine some kind of dystopian future where an AI becomes so smart that it replaces all human leadership, control and decision making, but I can't really imagine humans would either want or accept such a scenario - one thing we know is absolutely true about humanity is that people desire control (at least over their own lives if nothing else), so barring the Skynet/Terminator scenario, humanity itself is always going to be making sure that it is in control of its creations, with computers merely doing the work as well as providing input/feedback which help its controller/leader make better-informed decisions.
Realistically I'd imagine humans are likely to be increasingly involved in jobs based in the process of creating and maintaining automated systems as well as analysing the information made available by those systems to make decisions. For example, the construction site foreman of the future could still exist, except s/he is more likely to be an engineer and architect who takes the time to understand what needs to be built, monitors the construction systems in case something needs to be adapted, knowing how to modify and program the system so that they can get the job done properly and on time.
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Dunno, don't particularly care.
(Original post by itsismael)
This change in automation will be a really fundamental change in society, it will replace the vast majority of jobs, and unlike the Industrial Revolution, it's highly unlikely a new kind of jobs gets created. I think it will cause a lot of unrest in the future and even rebellion. I mean once you replace your workers you still need people to buy your stuff, how can you do that if the majority of people are unemployed... Monopoly capitalism is outdoing itself, and it is only a matter of time before the contradictions manifest completely.
I agree with you, however, some people also argue that robots can only replace tasks, but not jobs, no humans. For examples, the ATMs are everywhere, but the banks are still hiring people to provide quality service for their customers, in order to grab more market share from their competitors.
It is also claimed that some jobs, such as receptionists and telemarketers, will disappear as technology evolves. We might not be able to stop the evolution of robots and AI, but we are able to prepare and choose our future career path.
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