Soot covered coal miners deemed to be racist Watch

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What's wrong?

Free speech. Free expression. Etc.
"Hoist with his own petard" is the appropriate phrase I think.

See he is now claiming the picture ISN'T him. This after several day in which he thought it might be, it is very sad.

I feel sorry for the guy, and don't think he has done anything wrong, but it it is karma. When you are a member of a political party which whips up a frenzy over matters like this for ideological reasons you find YOURSELF judged retroactively over behaviour which was acceptable at the time you did it, but is now felt not to be, and defines whether you are suitable to be the Governor of a US State.

Both sides should stand up to the mob and not resign in cases like this, and it will stop. But that is never going to happen and the Democrats are to blame more than the Republicans who are reacting in revenge, and not pushing this nonsensical agenda where somethig done thirty years ago, that was no problem then, destroys you.

He is finished. It is absurd, but that is the nature of US politics now.
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I agree with much if what you say but please don't lump the left in one group with these self righteous neoliberals. It's the same to lunping the right with the far right like the EDL.

They are completely different
Fair enough, you are right. It is unfair to lump everyone together.

But those on the left like you need to speak up more, then, because the radicals are shouting the loudest and driving the agenda. On the right and left, actually.
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The "blackface" story in Virginia has turned into farce.

The Governor, facing pressing calls to resign had a catastrophic press connference in which he admitted dressing up as Michael Jackson and doing a moonwalk, and said that he HAD blacked up, but he regretted it because shoe polish takes so long to come off. He had to be restrained from recreating the moonwalk on stage by his embarrassed wife.

He is still in post, however. Why I hear you ask? Well the next in line, if he were to resign, pending an election is the Lieutenant Governor. He HASN'T put on blackface in the path because he actually is black. But he can't take over because he is under a cloud over claims of sexual harassment arising from the #METOO movement. Third in line is the Attorney General, and he can't take over because, guess what? A photo has emrged of HIM in blackface too. What are the chances of that statistically? Does every future Democrat politician have to black up his face and sing "Mammy!" before he has a chance of getting a job or something?? Finally we come to the majority leader in the Virginia Legislature. He can't take over because he once EDITED a book which contained white people in blackface. You couldn't make it up.

So what is the takeaway here? That in the most powerful country in the history of the world, its politicians are so hobbled by the lunacy of political correctness and identity politics that the Governorship of a State is determined by who, and who did not, put on black boot polish thirty years ago as a student prank.

The coal miners covered in soot, aren't the half of it. You might think this is all a joke but it isn't. We have yet to approach peak Woke. Ask the Governor and other senior politicians in the Commonwealth of Virginia...
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previous research on this topic can be found here:

start at 1:50

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previous research on this topic can be found here:

start at 1:50

That IS hilarious!

Worth watching all the way through, the Welsh lessons at the end had me literally guffawing out loud. You forget how good Sacha Baron Cohen was in the early days...
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That IS hilarious!

Worth watching all the way through, the Welsh lessons at the end had me literally guffawing out loud. You forget how good Sacha Baron Cohen was in the early days...
aiggght for real

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Just when you thought the cultural Marxists couldn't get more loopy loo, they earnestly tell us that photos of coal miners are racist, they offend them, and therefore must be taken down from public display.

The left are so stupid as to be beyond parody...

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/opini...ce/2683881002/
That's obviously a joke article. Satire. No sane person would think that. It think you've been Poe's Lawed.

I am a socialist.
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I am a socialist.
Me too this confusing socialist with these neoliberals on a mission to keep a gravy train going for themselves, winds me up
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Do you have a source for this because I think it is improbable?

Firstly, miners were on strike for months before the general strike. Why are they covered in coal dust? They weren’t working.

Secondly the walls of that room are made out of vertical wooden planks, not panelling. You don’t find that in a Welsh pit village.

Those beer glasses don’t look like a British 1920s beer glass to me.

The advert is for Bass Burton Ale on draught. Again that seems unlikely for a pub in a pit village.

I am not convinced about the date, that it was taken in the UK or that the men were miners rather than tunnelling navvies.
It's on the cover of a book about the home front during WWI. Definitely look like pitmen, definitely taken in UK (the advertising is all for British brands).
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That's obviously a joke article. Satire. No sane person would think that. It think you've been Poe's Lawed.

I am a socialist.
You could be right of course. It IS completely insane.

But he isn't a spoof writer, he actually exists.

He majored in "African American Studies" and "Justice Studies" (whatever the hell that is) at Arizona State...

https://www.facebook.com/RashaadTTho...6%3A1548874436

He is a self professed radical black poet whose twitter has a picture of the National Guard pointing guns towards a black child...

https://twitter.com/blackyodayogi?lang=en

And is an Engagement Manager at the Phoenix Center fo the Performing Arts...

https://www.facebook.com/RashaadTTho...6%3A1548874436

Feels serious to me.
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It's on the cover of a book about the home front during WWI. Definitely look like pitmen, definitely taken in UK (the advertising is all for British brands).
Thank you for that lead.

It is in fact neither a photo of WWI nor of the General Strike.

It is a photo of South Wales Miners.

The photo is in the archive of the Topical Press Agency which now belongs to Getty Images.

It dates from 1912 and its original caption was:-

"Coal Strike Crisis
A group of coal-blacked South Wales colliers relax over a drink in a local pub and discuss the strike situation."
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You could be right of course. It IS completely insane.

But he isn't a spoof writer, he actually exists.

He majored in "African American Studies" and "Justice Studies" (whatever the hell that is) at Arizona State...

https://www.facebook.com/RashaadTTho...6%3A1548874436

He is a self professed radical black poet whose twitter has a picture of the National Guard pointing guns towards a black child...

https://twitter.com/blackyodayogi?lang=en

And is an Engagement Manager at the Phoenix Center fo the Performing Arts...

https://www.facebook.com/RashaadTTho...6%3A1548874436

Feels serious to me.
Feels even more like satire to me!
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Feels serious to me.
I think you are right. This was a serious article. However, the problem, as I said earlier in the thread, is his inability to articulate what the issue is.

The issue isn’t that some long dead miners went drinking in their work dirt. The issue is why did a 21st century Arizona restaurateur choose that image to hang on his wall? What was that restaurateur saying and why did the author find his statement, not the statement of the photographer or the drinkers offensive?

We can’t answer that question because the author has chosen not to share the context of the image on the restaurant wall with us. The image is not racist; the placing of it on the wall might be, but we do not know enough to form that opinion.
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He is a self professed radical black poet whose twitter has a picture of the National Guard pointing guns towards a black child...
He is as much of a tosspot as Liz Warren and other racial-agitators that wouldn't be good for anything else. None of these characters is in the game of promoting racial harmony, they all depend upon fomenting division and hatred to make themselves noticed in this world. Scum, all of them.
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The issue isn’t that some long dead miners went drinking in their work dirt. The issue is why did a 21st century Arizona restaurateur choose that image to hang on his wall? What was that restaurateur saying and why did the author find his statement, not the statement of the photographer or the drinkers offensive?
The issue is that everyone has to pay their bills somehow and some people attach themselves to the race-industry in order to do so. We make it too serious and it would be nothing but laughable and contemptible if the whole thing didn't have unintended consequences.
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