(Original post by Strotty)
Just wondering which part of what it was that Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Gove et al said that was actually true that you voted for ?? My mum's a big leaver - ask her why she voted she'll say "oh it's because I don't want them telling us what to do"..... really mum! Everything else is built round a fantasy - what Britain could be like. We are already the world's 5th largest ecomony - BEING IN THE EU! What position will be be in being out of the EU?
General Lee - typical brexiteer approach - claim the remainder mob are traitors / project fear / betrayals. This over-emotional language is why people vote Brexit in the first place. It's not "Project fear" etc - nope - it's "Project-I-know-what-side-my-bread's-biuttered-on" actually. The EU mitigates the extreme left and the extreme right in our country. We leave EU and we're ruled by Rees-Mogg and Johnson. They're ok - they have plenty of cash, but it's the little man that will be left without a job.
Brexiteer response ??/ Typically - "That'll never happen" (and cross fingers).... let's watch what happens with Nissan pulling out of Sunderland. They've already ceased production of new models, so when they pull the plug on Qashquai etc, they'll close the plant. Thousands of jobs. Dyson - he's a big leaver ... what's he done?? Moved his production to Singapore. This guy really puts his money where his mouth is!! Not so much then!
Next time just take mote of when a Brexiteer says "Oh that'll never happen!.... That's Project fear again!" No mate - it's realising when you've got it good!
I voted to regain our sovereignty. If we have a clean Brexit, or a deal with the Irish backstop effectively mitigated, eventully leading to Brexit, fine. If it doesn't happen if we end up neither leaving nor remaining, a vassal state, which is May's original deal, or if we somehow Remain after all of this (that seems most unlikely, but for the sake of argument) then my vote will have been betrayed. Seventeen and half million votes will have been betrayed, the most people who have ever voted for anything in our entire political history
By a Remainer Parliament, (both Commons and Lords), by a Government led by a Remainer in which Brexiteer Brexit Secretaries were deliberately excluded from influence, by a Remainer Judiciary, by a Remainer Civil Service, and a largely Remainer MSM. The establishment ignoring a direct instruction from the people and doing instead what IT wanted.
The parliamentary system will be revealed to be broken. The people won't have had their will, the establishment will have shamelessly frustrated it. Democracy itself will be destroyed in this country for a generation, maybe longer. 52% of the voting population decided something and this was not reflected in the House of Commos which is probably less than 15% Leaver. All of the main Parloamentary Parties, the Tories, Labour, the SNP, the Lib Dems, Plaid, are ALL Remain. They didn't want to ever deliver Brexit and they wouldn't have. Why should we have been surprised?
That would be a monumental failure of democracy. Terminal for the present system, I think which will have to torn up and replaced. Parliament should be the servants of the people not their masters. So the struggle will continue until we cease to be what fifty years in the EU has turned us into, a Member State. And become a Nation State once more. Free and sovereign.