QMUL vs Durham for law Watch

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hello, international student here! just curious, if y'all happen to get offers from both schools, which school are you more likely to firm and why?

based on what i've read, wonder why qmul doesn't seem to be a v popular choice for law despite being situated in london as compared to durham which is q far? esp since qmul has a considerably strong law faculty

also, any insights on student life at durham and qmul? thank you in advance! :-)
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I don’t know much about either, because I haven’t applied to them for Law. But, I think a lot of people prefer Durham (because of their ideas of rankings) and because of the location. Yes QMUL is in London, but it’s in a pretty sketchy area*

*by pretty sketchy I mean scarily sketchy.
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I don’t know much about either, because I haven’t applied to them for Law. But, I think a lot of people prefer Durham (because of their ideas of rankings) and because of the location. Yes QMUL is in London, but it’s in a pretty sketchy area*

*by pretty sketchy I mean scarily sketchy.
oh dear I see haha, what are your thoughts on bristol then? + between bristol and durham
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oh dear I see haha, what are your thoughts on bristol then? + between bristol and durham
For me they’re pretty equal I guess. Durham is a lot more traditional I hear, but they’re both supposed to be nice areas. I assume you haven’t visited?
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For me they’re pretty equal I guess. Durham is a lot more traditional I hear, but they’re both supposed to be nice areas. I assume you haven’t visited?
haha nope only been to the UK once a few years back
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haha nope only been to the UK once a few years back
I think student life would be livelier at Bristol because it's much bigger than Durham (which is tiny). Both great law schools, I guess Durham is considered slightly more prestigious though
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Durham is more prestigious than the other universities mentioned on this thread. QMUL isn't really a target uni for top law firms so its a no-brainer which uni you should choose really.
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I wouldn’t say Durham was more prestigious than Bristol, definitely not for law anyway.

Both are pretty traditional universities. In some ways very similar - they have a pretty similar feel anyway. Bristol will have a city feel though, while Durham will feel more like a very large market town. Without the university, there wouldn’t be a lot to Durham.
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hello, international student here! just curious, if y'all happen to get offers from both schools, which school are you more likely to firm and why?

based on what i've read, wonder why qmul doesn't seem to be a v popular choice for law despite being situated in london as compared to durham which is q far? esp since qmul has a considerably strong law faculty

also, any insights on student life at durham and qmul? thank you in advance! :-)
As an international student, and also a person who did a degree at QMUL, and also applying for law, I think I can contribute.

Not sure about 'strong', but I do know they have a centre for commerical law studies in central london. In my experience, QMUL is somewhere people go for law if they 'screw up' their LNAT. It doesn't make it bad, but that seems to be the case. Their A levels/IB on average are actually fairly high, with most students having AAA(for the law faculty), at least in my limited exposure to them.

It is not very safe, that much is true. I actually had my laptop nabbed from me while in the KFC in mile end lol.

The only problem with QM, to be really honest with you, is that it is always seen as second fiddle to everyone else. We have imperial(not relevant here i know), UCL, King's, LSE, that are always seen as more prestigious choices for most subjects. So we are not anyone's first choice. It is still really good in terms of quality of students, but due to being surrounded by those other unis, it doesn't make us look very good.

That could be part of the reason it isn't popular. The other part, is that east london is generally not very nice compared to central and west london, where all the other popular unis are.
If i were you, and I really wanted to live in london, I would choose QM. If not, durham is the better option.

Before anyone accuses me of ****ging off my own ex-uni, I would like to add that the people there are generally quite nice(although uni admin is crap), and I made some of the best friends that I hope I will be friends with for life. It's just that QMUL is surrounded by 'much better'(read: subjective prestige) options and also in a 'bad' area.

I know it receives a ton of hate from TSR already, but I feel that this is as objective as an assessment that I can give it.
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Durham is more prestigious than the other universities mentioned on this thread. QMUL isn't really a target uni for top law firms so its a no-brainer which uni you should choose really.
Totally forgot about that... used to read loads of threads on target and semi target unis on investment banking threads.
Basically, the consensus is: go to LSE. It's in london, it's one of the 6 targets(at least for investment banking)
Getting in to LSE is an entirely different matter.
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QM is a target university for a lot of law firms
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QM is a target university for a lot of law firms
So are Bristol and Durham, surely?
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QM is a target university for a lot of law firms
Oh. sorry, i didn't know that. I know for investment banking, it isn't a target or a semi target(at least based on 2016 ish knowledge).
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QMUL is a low tier university situated in one of the worst suburbs of London (Mile End). Durham instead is a really prestigious institution. We could argue which uni is actually better between Durham and Bristol, but between Durham and QMUL there is no play.
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QMUL is a low tier university situated in one of the worst suburbs of London (Mile End). Durham instead is a really prestigious institution. We could argue which uni is actually better between Durham and Bristol, but between Durham and QMUL there is no play.
proof?
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proof?
Every single league table.

EDIT: For example, https://www.thecompleteuniversitygui...rankings?s=law

or: https://www.timeshighereducation.com...asc/cols/stats
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QMUL is a low tier university situated in one of the worst suburbs of London (Mile End). Durham instead is a really prestigious institution. We could argue which uni is actually better between Durham and Bristol, but between Durham and QMUL there is no play.
dude, that's a bit harsh. It isn't half bad, but isn't the top choice for most people. Maybe in the IB world they see it like that, but it is still not too bad to most people.
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Both are great for Law. Mile End isn't that bad, I've been in worse areas. For better or worse, a lot of the 'rough' parts of London are being gentrified.

Durham would be the better option unless you don't like the collegiate system or want to be in a major city.

I saw Bristol pop up earlier in the thread but didn't read it properly. Bristol is also very good.

Unis that I know are generally renowned for Law are Oxbridge, LSE, UCL, KCL, QMUL, Durham, Bristol, Nottingham, Warwick, Bristol, and a few others.
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Oh. sorry, i didn't know that. I know for investment banking, it isn't a target or a semi target(at least based on 2016 ish knowledge).
And yet enough QM people get into the industry with it being a direct target.
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League tables mean very little when it comes to prestige thanks to the various metrics used to create them.
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