(Original post by Bright Student)
Beheading those who don't adhere to Islam is not an Islamic precedent.
It kinda is. When Muhammad beheaded the entire Banu Qurayza tribe, they could save themselves by converting. About 600 were beheaded, including boys as young as 12. Of course, He wasn't all bad. The women and children were merely sold into slavery.
Yet I agree, this ideology of harming someone because they do not fall into your niche view of what is wrong and right is immoral and erroneous, and that is an issue with the individual, not the religion itself.
Quran 9:5 - "...slay the idolaters wherever you find them..."
The renowned classical Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir explains that this means that the disbelievers "have no choice but to die or embrace Islam". (Ibn Kathir's tafsir is the most widely used interpretation of the Quran)
There are also several sahih hadith (the highest level of authenticity) where Muhammad says "I have been commanded to fight the people until they submit to Islam. Then their lives and property will be protected from me".
Islam has clear textual authorisation of the use of violence to encourage conversion.
Last edited by QE2; 1 week ago
(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
t isn't particularly fair to label Islam as only suffering this difficulty of modern interpretation - vs - modern realities.
I hereby undertake never to refer to the matter again - the moment Moslems stop referrring to Mohammed as an eternal role model, stop claiming the Koran is perfect and that its message is for all men in all times. If you claim that seventh-century morality is perfect then there is no lack of fairness in pointing out what that means.
I do not single out Islam for this treatment. I am perfectly happy to point out the hypocrisy, lies and double-dealing in Christianity and Judaism as well.
Last edited by Good bloke; 1 week ago
Disgusting. I wish religion vanished completely. A lot of the ignorance towards different groups of people would probably reduce.