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The fractures in the great EU are starting to show as member states start going their own way.

Sweden has had enough of the reckless EU immigration nonsense and is scrapping Shengen.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ntrol-schengen


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Sweden has had enough of the reckless EU immigration nonsense and is scrapping Shengen.
No they're not.
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The fractures in the great EU are starting to show as member states start going their own way.

Sweden has had enough of the reckless EU immigration nonsense and is scrapping Shengen.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ntrol-schengen


Extending current border checks =/= Leaving the Schengen Area.

I remember when people like yourself were up in arms when Denmark started to introduce checks at their border. 'EU Country Establishes Border Checks!' sounded all big, scary and anti-EU... until you realised that it was just a couple of officers checking passports and a small barrier (the kind they use to manage queues).

Somehow in the minds of euroskeptics that means the EU is on the brink of collapse?
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Extending current border checks =/= Leaving the Schengen Area.

I remember when people like yourself were up in arms when Denmark started to introduce checks at their border. 'EU Country Establishes Border Checks!' sounded all big, scary and anti-EU... until you realised that it was just a couple of officers checking passports and a small barrier (the kind they use to manage queues).

Somehow in the minds of euroskeptics that means the EU is on the brink of collapse?
Are you American?

If not you need to know that spelling things their way does not make you look cool and hipster, but unconversant with your own linguistic culture.

If you are a yank I can't say I am surprised, mind, what with your general lack of understanding of all things British and European...
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Are you American?

If not you need to know that spelling things their way does not make you look cool and hipster, but unconversant with your own linguistic culture.

If you are a yank I can't say I am surprised, mind, what with your general lack of understanding of all things British and European...
1. I'm British.
2. What did I spell incorrectly?
3. What does this have to do with anything I've said or the conversation that is (was) trying to be had?
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This is an extension of an already extant policy.

Some interesting quotes from Swedish government sources though...

"The decision is based on the government's assessment that there is a threat to public order and internal security in Sweden,” a government press release stated."

Interior Minister Mikael Damberg indicated that the Swedish measures would not be necessary if there was a united European approach to border security.

"Sweden is one of a handful of countries that continue to have internal border controls due to lack of border controls at the Schengen's external borders," he said.


https://www.thelocal.se/20190207/swe...ntinued-threat

Looks like the quest to become an "humantitarian superpower" isn't going as well as they hoped. Unless you call a huge increase in violent crime including rape, and the emergence of a fascist political party to a position where they hold the balance of power a success. Who'd have thought that opening up your borders to as even more Muslim "refugees" (as a percentage of population) than Germany wouldn't work out well?

No, impossible for a progressive to forecast that. Even though I can remember saying so at the time, you guys, as always knew better. So compassionate, you warmed everyone's hearts, you did. Another triumph for wokedom.

Sadly for Sweden this demographic disaster is irreversible. Too late to shut the borders now, the damage is already done.
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Sweden is slowly rebelling ( the Swedish Democrat’s are the third largest party and have squeezed both main parties) but this bill isn’t it.
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Are you American?

If not you need to know that spelling things their way does not make you look cool and hipster, but unconversant with your own linguistic culture.

If you are a yank I can't say I am surprised, mind, what with your general lack of understanding of all things British and European...

Don't worry Shallow... it's only Brexiteers who exhibit such loutish manners. The rest of us do apologise for them. Brexiteer dictionary:
American: Ignorant Yank.
Remainer: Undemocratic traitor, moaner, loser
European: Blackmailing drunk, the enemy
Immigrant: Foreign scum
Farage: Our beloved Fuehrer.
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Sweden is slowly rebelling ( the Swedish Democrat’s are the third largest party and have squeezed both main parties) but this bill isn’t it.
Basically. Sweden wasn't the only country to create temporary border checks in response to the migrant crisis and terrorist attacks. Not only that but the rules of the Schengen Area explicitely allow participating states to do this.

This thread is just Euroskeptics looking for something to get excited about, much like they did when the border checks were first introduced.
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Don't worry Shallow... it's only Brexiteers who exhibit such loutish manners. The rest of us do apologise for them. Brexiteer dictionary:
American: Ignorant Yank.
Remainer: Undemocratic traitor, moaner, loser
European: Blackmailing drunk, the enemy
Immigrant: Foreign scum
Farage: Our beloved Fuehrer.
I mean... it's more so that spelling mistakes and/or inaccuracies aren't a big deal. I mean, I spelt a word in a way they think isn't correct... so what?

According to them this means I am either 'unconversant with my own linguistic culture' or 'generally lacking understanding of all things British'. Imagine for a second being so up yourself that you think that way about someone because of how they spell a word. It's so stupid!

I can't even spot the word they're upset about. 🤔
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I mean... it's more so that spelling mistakes and/or inaccuracies aren't a big deal. I mean, I spelt a word in a way they think isn't correct... so what?

According to them this means I am either 'unconversant with my own linguistic culture' or 'generally lacking understanding of all things British'. Imagine for a second being so up yourself that you think that way about someone because of how they spell a word. It's so stupid!

I can't even spot the word they're upset about. 🤔
Neither can I... and you should see some of their spelling mistakes. Hate to say it... but these people almost make me ashamed to be British. Most of their posts are from extreme far right websites which exist only to promote hatred and mistrust.
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I find it so sad that people like yourself are calling for strife in Europe when my grandparents fought to rid Europe of mischief makers like yourself and their grand parents did the same. Do you really want war? You seem to find the destruction of Europe to be like some sick joke. How so? We have more in common with Europe than we do with the US both historically and culturally.
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I can't even spot the word they're upset about. 🤔
That says it all! Hardly surprising that someone who hates their country enough to give away its sovereignty to a bunch of second rate bureaucrats in Brussels also wants to Americanise (of as they would say Americanize) the language of Shakespeare and Milton...

Sceptic

/ˈskɛptɪk/
noun

1.
a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.
synonyms: cynic, doubter, questioner, scoffer; More

2.
PHILOSOPHY
an ancient or modern philosopher who denies the possibility of knowledge, or even rational belief, in some sphere.
adjective


In most of their senses, there is no difference between skeptic and sceptic. Skeptic is the preferred spelling in American and Canadian English, and sceptic is preferred in the main varieties of English from outside North America. This extends to all derivatives, including sceptical/skeptical and scepticism/skepticism.

Skeptic vs. Sceptic - Grammar.com
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I find it so sad that people like yourself are calling for strife in Europe when my grandparents fought to rid Europe of mischief makers like yourself and their grand parents did the same. Do you really want war? You seem to find the destruction of Europe to be like some sick joke. How so? We have more in common with Europe than we do with the US both historically and culturally.
We aren't calling for strife in Europe we wish to leave a free trade area.

It is the EU, with its disastrous Euro and concomitant debt disaster who are creating strife in Europe...

"Why is Greece demanding reparations now?

The war reparations issue gained traction again in 2010 as the country's economy plunged into recession with creditors, including Germany, demanding reforms as part of a bailout programme.

A parliamentary report on the topic was commissioned and released in August 2016 but it was put on hold with the eight-year bailout programme — during which Greece received €240 billion in financial aid — believed to be the reason behind the two-year-delay.

But Greece successfully exited the IMF-sponsored programme in August. Since then President Pavlopoulos and Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras have both stated the country's intention to demand reparations.

"Claiming reparations from Germany is a historic duty," Tsipras said during a visit last month to a memorial in Crete, commemorating the 1941 destruction of the village of Kandanos and the killing of its 180 inhabitants."

https://www.euronews.com/2018/10/10/...ii-reparations
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I find it so sad that people like yourself are calling for strife in Europe when my grandparents fought to rid Europe of mischief makers like yourself and their grand parents did the same. Do you really want war? You seem to find the destruction of Europe to be like some sick joke. How so? We have more in common with Europe than we do with the US both historically and culturally.
I think most of the allied soldiers would have deserted if they had known what Europe would become. This is in era where the U.K. still had a colonial empire and the US had segregation, the idea that the allied were the modern day Antifa is laughable. As Patton puts it, ‘we fought the wrong enemy’ . Also Europe/ EU.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iors-WWII.html
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We have more in common with Europe than we do with the US both historically and culturally.
Europe are behaving in such a friendly way to our desire to leave their little club, aren't they? With friends like that, who needs enemies?

(As for your assertion that Britons have more in common with (say) an Estonian or Hungarian than an American (with whom we share a language, legal and political system (in the sense that thiers was based on English traditions) and who we have fought side by side with on two world wars. well that is laughable.

Even for a progressive.

(Whose support for a capitalist protectionist racket dominated by big business like the EU, who squashed a democratically elected socialist government in Greece and who would do the same for a Corbyn one here, is a mystery by the way)).
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That says it all! Hardly surprising that someone who hates their country enough to give away its sovereignty to a bunch of second rate bureaucrats in Brussels also wants to Americanise (of as they would say Americanize) the language of Shakespeare and Milton...

Sceptic

/ˈskɛptɪk/
noun

1.
a person inclined to question or doubt accepted opinions.
synonyms: cynic, doubter, questioner, scoffer; More

2.
PHILOSOPHY
an ancient or modern philosopher who denies the possibility of knowledge, or even rational belief, in some sphere.
adjective


In most of their senses, there is no difference between skeptic and sceptic. Skeptic is the preferred spelling in American and Canadian English, and sceptic is preferred in the main varieties of English from outside North America. This extends to all derivatives, including sceptical/skeptical and scepticism/skepticism.

Skeptic vs. Sceptic - Grammar.com
Dude, you honestly need to chill and get over yourself. You're doing yourself no favours by getting this worked up over someone unknowingly spelling "eurosceptic" as "euroskeptic".
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The fractures in the great EU are starting to show as member states start going their own way.

Sweden has had enough of the reckless EU immigration nonsense and is scrapping Shengen.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ntrol-schengen


I’m on your side the the brexit fence but the story says the opposite of what you claim, it’s extending boarder checks for a further three months but wants to work long term to living up to the EU ideals of Schengen.
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I think most of the allied soldiers would have deserted if they had known what Europe would become. This is in era where the U.K. still had a colonial empire and the US had segregation, the idea that the allied were the modern day Antifa is laughable. As Patton puts it, ‘we fought the wrong enemy’ . Also Europe/ EU.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iors-WWII.html
I'm assuming you think that Antifa are a force for good and not just a bunch of thuggish bully boys ( and girls just in case that particular phrase triggers anyone) that are every bit fascist as the far right.

fascism noun
fas·cism | \ ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- \
Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
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