Is Canterbury Christ Church University a Christian university?

Misquoting people is not cool.

I did not intend to misquote people. I apologize if I seemed to have do so.

It is just that it seems to me that some people use "being nice" as an excuse to tolerate sin.

May I ask in what capacity do you work in?

Lies of the world such as that YHWH is not the true God, that Jesus is not the way, the denial of Jesus's resurrection, and all doctrines that go against the Bible.

As for stoning children for disobedience, I believe that we do not live under the Old Covenant, but under the New Covenant and are justified by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Also, I am an 18 year old female and wish to respect and submit to my elders.

My main purpose in going to university would not be in order to look for an argument.

Unfortunately I do not know the history of the Bible and the Bible well enough to defend my faith as well as I perhaps should.

I do not address the fact that parts of the Bible are supposedly "demonstrably false" because I think it may be a waste of time trying to debate Christianity with people who are resistant to hearing the truth.

I believe the spiritual formation and education of children should not be neglected.

I do not know much about Harry Potter, but I believe the author who wrote Harry Potter intended to write it as fiction.

and no fulfilment of prophecies in real life in Harry Potter.

I do not address the fact that parts of the Bible are supposedly "demonstrably false" because I think it may be a waste of time trying to debate Christianity with people who are resistant to hearing the truth.

However, I believe "contradictions" in the Bible can be dealt with and are thought to be "contradictions" due to not being taken in context and due to people's fallible interpretations.

Though pretty much everything else you've said is bang on, and much of it can be found summarized in Wheaton's Law.

You added to what Good bloke said. That's an intentional misquote.

Also we're called to accept correction as well as give it. You have not accepted any of the correction offered in this thread.

I would have a real problem with a Christian social worker encouraging an abortion in any way.

Those are not lies. The Bible is.

How do you decide which parts of the Old Testament to reject?

Debate is a valuable way to test your knowledge and reassess what you believe. We should all do the later, on the basis of evidence that we haven't preciously considered.

You both assert that it is 'the truth' and don't know it well enough to defend it. Do you see the issue?

How do you know that the Bible wasn't?

So you might fail to do your job properly, and in a compassionate way, if you become a social worker.

Sure - I'm a Software Engineer.


Those are not lies. The Bible is.


Where are the ten commandments? How do you decide which parts of the Old Testament to reject?


You should really respect me then


Debate is a valuable way to test your knowledge and reassess what you believe. We should all do the later, on the basis of evidence that we haven't preciously considered.



You both assert that it is 'the truth' and don't know it well enough to defend it. Do you see the issue?


Given that you cannot prove it, how are you going to convince anyone? Personally, I class "spiritual formation" as indoctrination, because you cannot present any evidence that the 'spiritual' exists. There have been thousands of incompatible religions through history - on what evidential basis do you think that all the others were wrong?


How do you know that the Bible wasn't?


And no non-vague ones in the Bible. However, getting a guess right proves nothing. Someone does that with lottery numbers fairly often - does that make each of them a god?


I am not resistant to the truth - I follow the evidence, wherever it leads. I don't accept substantial claims without evidence.

You do not appear to care about a lack of evidence, at least in this one area, because you already 'know' the 'truth'. You are therefore unable to debate it - that is the evil of indoctrination.


How can you assert that it is true, when it is so unclear that you don't know how to interpret it? It's a little convenient to say that, when it's proved wrong, we just didn't interpret it correctly, as you know that it's true! Try that with your exam marking ..

I do not know the history of the Bible well, but I believe there is what can be considered substantial evidence for Christianity to be true, not least the fulfillment of prophecy. The Bible is not the only historical document describing the Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe there is no lack of evidence, that the evidence for the existence of God is there for all to see, and that the evidence for Jesus would be found by all who seek Him (Matthew 7).

Unfortunately I may not be able to defend the Bible as well as I should at the moment (1 Peter 3:15), but there are Christian pastors, Christian scholars, Christian scientists and other Christians who may be better able to be present the evidence.

Jesus did say not to throw pearls before swine. Another reason I am hesitant to say too much on this thread is because I believe women should not preach to men (at least in the local church setting), and because this forum is not a Christian forum.

It sounds like you need a sexist university too.

No, I believe males and females are equal in God's eyes (Galatians 3:28), but I acknowledge I may not fully understand the Bible's position on Male and female roles.

No, I believe males and females are equal in God's eyes (Galatians 3:28), but I acknowledge I may not fully understand the Bible's position on Male and female roles.

Why should women not preach to men then?

I do not want to potentially promote heresy; so I will not be making statements about the roles of women and men on this thread.

The Bible reflects a desert society of two or three thousand years ago. They kept slaves, stoned adulterers, inflicted barbarous punishments for minor infractions, restricted the roles of women and, altogether, were not much like us. Do you really want to live in that society? That is what you appear to want. If you do then I would suggest Texas is nearer the mark than Canterbury, or anywhere in Europe. There, your superstitious folly will be appreciated by a visible minority. Here you more likely to find only ridicule and ostracism unless you happen upon a closed group of like-minded people,

As for possibly being ridiculed or ostracised due to my faith, I believe the Bible tells all Christians to be prepared for persecution

You must realise that
A, your views, especially on abortion and transgender, etc. are very controversial even among Christians.
B, people are very unlikely to convert just because you believe and gave them some evidence, like how we have given you evidence that Christianity doesn't exist and you haven't converted because you think the evidence is stupid. People will also think that your evidence is stupid.
Basically you won't be able to convert anyone to your views, and are unlikely to find someone with the same views as you despite being in a Christian uni. People might get really upset or angry because of your views and therefore many will dislike you.

So for your sake and others as you will get nowhere and make people dislike you, keep your religion to yourself and go to a good university and join the Christian union and go to church etc. I don't think that the uni will share your views as it is very extreme