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Same as title. I am considering taking GCSE Further Maths and Maths but would it be considered as 2 subjects or just 1 as is the case with A levels where some say they are just worth 1 qualification?
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Same as title. I am considering taking GCSE Further Maths and Maths but would it be considered as 2 subjects or just 1 as is the case with A levels where some say they are just worth 1 qualification?
It is two gcse level qualifications just as it would be 2 A levels with A level maths and further maths. For some university applications both A level maths and fm are required or highly desirable. It’s only for a few things like medicine that they won’t count both maths and further maths towards meeting your offer.
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Additional maths and maths are two different GCSE's, just like further maths and maths at A level.

But you should choose additional maths in GCSE if you are positive you will get an 8 or a 9. Otherwise, it may jeopardize your other grades. As you will learn all of the additional maths in the first year of A level anyway.
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It is two gcse level qualifications just as it would be 2 A levels with A level maths and further maths. For some university applications both A level maths and fm are required or highly desirable. It’s only for a few things like medicine that they won’t count both maths and further maths towards meeting your offer.
Does that mean that A levels Maths and Further Maths are not counted as 2 qualifications/subjects for Medicine applications? Thanks for the reply!
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Additional maths and maths are two different GCSE's, just like further maths and maths at A level.

But you should choose additional maths in GCSE if you are positive you will get an 8 or a 9. Otherwise, it may jeopardize your other grades. As you will learn all of the additional maths in the first year of A level anyway.
Does this apply to all exam boards? And does that mean that units in GCSE Further Maths are covered at A levels Maths? Thanks for the reply!
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Does this apply to all exam boards? And does that mean that units in GCSE Further Maths are covered at A levels Maths? Thanks for the reply!
Yes it applies for all exam boards.
As you asked the other person, a level further maths and normal maths are two different a levels too and you will get separate grades.

And yes everything you do in further maths GCSE will me covered in normal maths in the first year of A level.
This is only applicable if your GCSE exam board is the same as your A level maths exam board.
If you intend to chose maths at A level in your sixth form (if you have one) it would probably have the same exam board. But You should check just in case
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Yes it applies for all exam boards.
As you asked the other person, a level further maths and normal maths are two different a levels too and you will get separate grades.

And yes everything you do in further maths GCSE will me covered in normal maths in the first year of A level.
This is only applicable if your GCSE exam board is the same as your A level maths exam board.
If you intend to chose maths at A level in your sixth form (if you have one) it would probably have the same exam board. But You should check just in case
I appreciate the reply! Can I ask for your opinion? Would there be much of a point taking GCSE Further Maths when it's covered in the regular A level Maths? Out of interests, have you done both GCSEs and/or A levels Maths and Further Maths?
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I appreciate the reply! Can I ask for your opinion? Would there be much of a point taking GCSE Further Maths when it's covered in the regular A level Maths? Out of interests, have you done both GCSEs and/or A levels Maths and Further Maths?
As I said before if you think you can get an 8 or a 9 for normal maths then go ahead as it can give you a head start in AS, so you can have a little more focus on your other A levels.

I did take it as I was comfortable with all the topics, I eventually got an A for normal maths, A for maths - numeracy and A for further maths (is yours separated like that too? Or it might have been WJEC that just did that )
But having an extra GCSE grade didn't really give me an advantage, and I forgot everything in the summer so there was really no point hahaha (I took maths at a level, but did not take further maths in a level as it was too hard for me)
I really think I have memory problems lol
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Does that mean that A levels Maths and Further Maths are not counted as 2 qualifications/subjects for Medicine applications? Thanks for the reply!
Typically uk candidates would offer chemistry and biology plus a third A level. Chemistry maths and further maths would be an unusual combination. It is always worth checking the specific requirements of potential universities.
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Typically uk candidates would offer chemistry and biology plus a third A level. Chemistry maths and further maths would be an unusual combination. It is always worth checking the specific requirements of potential universities.
Can I ask for your opinion? I am planning on applying for Medicine (don't know when) and my current A level choices in mind atm are Maths, Chemistry, Biology, Physics and/or Geography or Spanish (perhaps taking it only up to AS level than A level), are these solid choices? I enjoy Chemistry a lot and the Sciences in general and Maths. Have you done the Sciences and Maths at A level? Thanks for the reply! I highly appreciate it!
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Can I ask for your opinion? I am planning on applying for Medicine (don't know when) and my current A level choices in mind atm are Maths, Chemistry, Biology, Physics and/or Geography or Spanish (perhaps taking it only up to AS level than A level), are these solid choices? I enjoy Chemistry a lot and the Sciences in general and Maths. Have you done the Sciences and Maths at A level? Thanks for the reply! I highly appreciate it!
If you do chemistry biology and either physics or maths you will meet the requirements of all uk medical schools. Many people are successful with Chen, bio and just about any third course. There’s loads of advice on Med school to be found on TSR.

Yes I did Chem bio and maths but I wasn’t interested in medicine (and it was a long time ago 😜.
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If you do chemistry biology and either physics or maths you will meet the requirements of all uk medical schools. Many people are successful with Chen, bio and just about any third course. There’s loads of advice on Med school to be found on TSR.

Yes I did Chem bio and maths but I wasn’t interested in medicine (and it was a long time ago 😜.
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Same as title. I am considering taking GCSE Further Maths and Maths but would it be considered as 2 subjects or just 1 as is the case with A levels where some say they are just worth 1 qualification?
What exam board are you doing for further maths (not a-level). The OCR FSMQ is an additional qualification, not an actual Gcse.
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As I said before if you think you can get an 8 or a 9 for normal maths then go ahead as it can give you a head start in AS, so you can have a little more focus on your other A levels.

I did take it as I was comfortable with all the topics, I eventually got an A for normal maths, A for maths - numeracy and A for further maths (is yours separated like that too? Or it might have been WJEC that just did that )
But having an extra GCSE grade didn't really give me an advantage, and I forgot everything in the summer so there was really no point hahaha (I took maths at a level, but did not take further maths in a level as it was too hard for me)
I really think I have memory problems lol
Firstly, those are superb grades and well done! Secondly, I'm now doubting taking GCSE Further Maths as what you've said it didn't give you an advantage. Third, what grade have you achieved at A level Maths (only if you don't mind me asking). Lastly, memorization is my issue atm and I think a lot of students just simply forget what they've learned more so when they've learned the content last minute as opposed to spaced repetition type of revision. Oh, since you've achieved quite excellent grades, will you be able to give me tips for revision and learning Maths and Further Maths in general? Thanks again!
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Firstly, those are superb grades and well done! Secondly, I'm now doubting taking GCSE Further Maths as what you've said it didn't give you an advantage. Third, what grade have you achieved at A level Maths (only if you don't mind me asking). Lastly, memorization is my issue atm and I think a lot of students just simply forget what they've learned more so when they've learned the content last minute as opposed to spaced repetition type of revision. Oh, since you've achieved quite excellent grades, will you be able to give me tips for revision and learning Maths and Further Maths in general? Thanks again!
Thank you!

I haven't finished A levels yet. But I got a B in AS maths and I am predicted an A at the end of A level but I am planning to resit the AS maths paper. Gonna be tough xD

For tips, I would suggest you do past papers from your exam board and keep doing questions. As for maths that is the number one method in my opinion, then after you finish the past paper check the mark scheme. This way you will understand how the exam board wants you to answer questions. People revise in different ways so this might not work for you. But another thing is videos, watching how to do different types of questions on youtube also helped me a lot (I used any random channels on youtube and I used mathswatch which was given to us by the school). This is the same for further maths and normal maths. If you need to remember formulas then uses flashcards as they helped me a lot.

For medicine I don't recommend choosing further maths in A level, just maths is enough. But most universities require chemistry and biology then any last A level. Also, there is no advantage in taking 4 A levels. You can take 4 in AS if you want then dropping a subject in A2 is recommended. As even Oxbridge only require 3 subjects. (I would recommend chemistry, biology, physics, and maths if you want to take 4, then in A2 drop your weaker subject. But you need to keep in mind that if you are weak in a subject e.g chemistry, then it might be a requirement for the uni you want to go to. So if you have a university in mind check their website for requirements. Or ask one of us on TSR. But it is okay if you don't know as you are still in GCSE's and you might even change your mind about going into medicine xD)
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What exam board are you doing for further maths (not a-level). The OCR FSMQ is an additional qualification, not an actual Gcse.
Both GCSEs Maths and Further Maths are CCEA. Thanks for the response!
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Isn't additional maths a Free Standing Qualification or something, I dont think it is a GCSE but slightly higher
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I haven't finished A levels yet. But I got a B in AS maths and I am predicted an A at the end of A level but I am planning to resit the AS maths paper. Gonna be tough xD

For tips, I would suggest you do past papers from your exam board and keep doing questions. As for maths that is the number one method in my opinion, then after you finish the past paper check the mark scheme. This way you will understand how the exam board wants you to answer questions. People revise in different ways so this might not work for you. But another thing is videos, watching how to do different types of questions on youtube also helped me a lot (I used any random channels on youtube and I used mathswatch which was given to us by the school). This is the same for further maths and normal maths. If you need to remember formulas then uses flashcards as they helped me a lot.

For medicine I don't recommend choosing further maths in A level, just maths is enough. But most universities require chemistry and biology then any last A level. Also, there is no advantage in taking 4 A levels. You can take 4 in AS if you want then dropping a subject in A2 is recommended. As even Oxbridge only require 3 subjects. (I would recommend chemistry, biology, physics, and maths if you want to take 4, then in A2 drop your weaker subject. But you need to keep in mind that if you are weak in a subject e.g chemistry, then it might be a requirement for the uni you want to go to. So if you have a university in mind check their website for requirements. Or ask one of us on TSR. But it is okay if you don't know as you are still in GCSE's and you might even change your mind about going into medicine xD)
Thanks! and GL with your A levels!
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Isn't additional maths a Free Standing Qualification or something, I dont think it is a GCSE but slightly higher
Never heard of it. I'm taking the CCEA GCSEs Maths and Further Maths, I've read their GCSE Maths spec and I think they're two qualifications/subjects.
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Never heard of it. I'm taking the CCEA GCSEs Maths and Further Maths, I've read their GCSE Maths spec and I think they're two qualifications/subjects.
https://www.ocr.org.uk/qualification...hematics-6993/
I'm not sure if this is the one your doing cuz we are doing this
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