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So there seems to be a new change coming into effect next year in the IB math curriculum. Now it's going to be divided into 2 different subjects:
1. Analysis & Approaches
2. Applications & Interpretations

Since I'm planning to major in Economics (in the UK), I'm definitely taking my Math at HL, but which of the two should I select?
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The Analysis & Approaches syllabus is said to be most similar to the current HL Maths syllabus, so is probably more appropriate if you're aiming for "top" courses (e.g. Oxbridge/LSE/Warwick), and is likely a safe bet otherwise. The Applications & Interpretations syllabus looks to have a lot more mechanics in it, which isn't really relevant, and the relevant topics seem less strongly developed.

If in doubt, I would recommend you contact any universities you may wish to apply to and enquire whether one would be required or preferred over the other. I think even outside of formal requirements the first option would give you a stronger mathematical background for any numerate degree.
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The Analysis & Approaches syllabus is said to be most similar to the current HL Maths syllabus, so is probably more appropriate if you're aiming for "top" courses (e.g. Oxbridge/LSE/Warwick), and is likely a safe bet otherwise. The Applications & Interpretations syllabus looks to have a lot more mechanics in it, which isn't really relevant, and the relevant topics seem less strongly developed.

If in doubt, I would recommend you contact any universities you may wish to apply to and enquire whether one would be required or preferred over the other. I think even outside of formal requirements the first option would give you a stronger mathematical background for any numerate degree.
Thank for the advice! I tried checking their requirements online but they are yet to be updated, so maybe I should try directly contacting them as you said. Did you also take the IB?
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Thank for the advice! I tried checking their requirements online but they are yet to be updated, so maybe I should try directly contacting them as you said. Did you also take the IB?
Yes, many moons ago...I did maths studies though (lmao, that was a mistake...so boring).
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Yes, many moons ago...I did maths studies though (lmao, that was a mistake...so boring).
lol. I just have one more question to ask. Based on the requirements of my desired universities (Warwick, Durham, Nottingham, Bristol, etc.) it seems like I'm going to need 38 total points and at least a 6 in Math HL. With that being said, my HLs are definitely going to be Math and Economics, but what should be my third? I was originally planning to take History as my third HL but the intense difficulty and workload of the subject (according to a lot of users) worries me. It might risk myself of not reaching the 38 points and also will give me less time to focus on Math which is the subject they're looking for. Since History isn't really a requirement, I'm planning to do a third HL that will be easier and maximise my grade (since all I need is 38 points and 6 in Math HL). So other than History, I'm considering Psychology HL cause I guess it has some relation to Economics. What would you recommend me to do?
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lol. I just have one more question to ask. Based on the requirements of my desired universities (Warwick, Durham, Nottingham, Bristol, etc.) it seems like I'm going to need 38 total points and at least a 6 in Math HL. With that being said, my HLs are definitely going to be Math and Economics, but what should be my third? I was originally planning to take History as my third HL but the intense difficulty and workload of the subject (according to a lot of users) worries me. It might risk myself of not reaching the 38 points and also will give me less time to focus on Math which is the subject they're looking for. Since History isn't really a requirement, I'm planning to do a third HL that will be easier and maximise my grade (since all I need is 38 points and 6 in Math HL). So other than History, I'm considering Psychology HL cause I guess it has some relation to Economics. What would you recommend me to do?
I don't think psychology is that relevant honestly; plus the small areas of psychology that do intersect with economics are almost certainly not going to be covered in IB. Geography, politics, or philosophy would be more relevant, if that's important. If your school offers it, HL Further Maths might be worth considering, but it's so rare that it's probably a moot point. However realistically, it doesn't really matter - just pick whatever subject you find most interesting otherwise.
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I don't think psychology is that relevant honestly; plus the small areas of psychology that do intersect with economics are almost certainly not going to be covered in IB. Geography, politics, or philosophy would be more relevant, if that's important. If your school offers it, HL Further Maths might be worth considering, but it's so rare that it's probably a moot point. However realistically, it doesn't really matter - just pick whatever subject you find most interesting otherwise.
If only there were Geography or Global Politics, I would have surely chosen one of them to be my third HL! Unfortunately, my school doesn't offer any of them
For group 3, my school offers History, Economics, Psychology, and B&M. B&M is out of question cause from what I've read, it is deemed as a soft subject and taking it together with Economics would be highly disadvisable as the two subjects somewhat overlap each other according to most UK Unis. Also, I believe that Further Maths is no longer in the new math curriculum. Anyways, thanks for the advice!
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If only there were Geography or Global Politics, I would have surely chosen one of them to be my third HL! Unfortunately, my school doesn't offer any of them
For group 3, my school offers History, Economics, Psychology, and B&M. B&M is out of question cause from what I've read, it is deemed as a soft subject and taking it together with Economics would be highly disadvisable as the two subjects somewhat overlap each other according to most UK Unis. Also, I believe that Further Maths is no longer in the new math curriculum. Anyways, thanks for the advice!
Yea I think ruling out B&M is a good idea, as it's usually preferred not to be taken with Economics; if that leaves you with just History or Psychology, then pick whichever you think would be most interesting that you could do well in. I have to say, when I did HL Psych (albeit, on an older syllabus) it was a lot less interesting than I thought it would be...
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Yea I think ruling out B&M is a good idea, as it's usually preferred not to be taken with Economics; if that leaves you with just History or Psychology, then pick whichever you think would be most interesting that you could do well in. I have to say, when I did HL Psych (albeit, on an older syllabus) it was a lot less interesting than I thought it would be...
Is IB Psych very scientific?
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Is IB Psych very scientific?
It wasn't hugely "sciencey" when I did it, but they've changed the syllabus since then. We did do an experimental IA though (again this was nearly 10 years ago and the syllabus changed the year after I took it, and possibly again since then), and it may just be our options for the options paper weren't that sciencey compared to others.
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Hey, this thread is quite old but I got recent news that my school is going to start offering Computer Science this year! So currently, I'm signed up for HL Math, Economics, and Psychology but I'm getting doubts about Psych as some say it's considered a 'soft subject' to top unis like Oxbridge, LSE, Warwick for economics. If this is true then I might switch my third HL to Computer Science. What do you think I should do if I wish to study economics?
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It wasn't hugely "sciencey" when I did it, but they've changed the syllabus since then. We did do an experimental IA though (again this was nearly 10 years ago and the syllabus changed the year after I took it, and possibly again since then), and it may just be our options for the options paper weren't that sciencey compared to others.
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Hey, this thread is quite old but I got recent news that my school is going to start offering Computer Science this year! So currently, I'm signed up for HL Math, Economics, and Psychology but I'm getting doubts about Psych as some say it's considered a 'soft subject' to top unis like Oxbridge, LSE, Warwick for economics. If this is true then I might switch my third HL to Computer Science. What do you think I should do if I wish to study economics?
I don't think it will make a difference, honestly. Just pick whichever you find more interesting and/or you think you'll do better in. I really doubt those (or any) universities will care what your third HL is. Also typically such commentary is with respect to A-levels, which doesn't apply to IB anyway.

Generally universities don't think about "soft" subjects so much as "traditionally academic" subjects, and non-academic/vocational/etc subjects. Psychology is a traditionally academic subject, so it doesn't matter. The only other distinction is with regards to "facilitating" subjects, which are subjects which are necessary prerequisites for one or more academic degree programmes (e.g. English Literature is normally required to A-level or equivalent for English degrees, likewise maths for a variety of courses). These are encouraged not because they're considered inherently better than non-facilitating subjects, but because by taking more of these, you will have more potential subject options to choose between when you apply.

In your case, neither computer science nor psychology are required to study either of those subjects (generally), nor any other subject, at university. Any benefit you gain from them will be based on how well you do in that subject, and how much you enjoy the process of studying it.
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I don't think it will make a difference, honestly. Just pick whichever you find more interesting and/or you think you'll do better in. I really doubt those (or any) universities will care what your third HL is. Also typically such commentary is with respect to A-levels, which doesn't apply to IB anyway.

Generally universities don't think about "soft" subjects so much as "traditionally academic" subjects, and non-academic/vocational/etc subjects. Psychology is a traditionally academic subject, so it doesn't matter. The only other distinction is with regards to "facilitating" subjects, which are subjects which are necessary prerequisites for one or more academic degree programmes (e.g. English Literature is normally required to A-level or equivalent for English degrees, likewise maths for a variety of courses). These are encouraged not because they're considered inherently better than non-facilitating subjects, but because by taking more of these, you will have more potential subject options to choose between when you apply.

In your case, neither computer science nor psychology are required to study either of those subjects (generally), nor any other subject, at university. Any benefit you gain from them will be based on how well you do in that subject, and how much you enjoy the process of studying it.
Hey, sorry if I keep asking you questions but for the past few days I have spent all of my time researching into different degrees and I think I am really interested and more inclined into doing PPE at university. Although so far I'm not 100% sure if I want to do it rather than pure economics, I think it'll be smarter for me to have subjects that are open to both degrees. Having that said, I am now planning to do HL Math, Economics, and English LangLit (instead of psychology) since having an essay subject is quite important when applying for PPE based on what I have read. For my SLs it would be Biology, French ab initio, and I am MAYBE thinking of doing B&M for my third SL to maximise my grades. Although I understand that B&M is a soft subject that is advised doing against especially when also taking Economics, do you think top unis will still take this into account when it's only taken at SL?
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Hey, sorry if I keep asking you questions but for the past few days I have spent all of my time researching into different degrees and I think I am really interested and more inclined into doing PPE at university. Although so far I'm not 100% sure if I want to do it rather than pure economics, I think it'll be smarter for me to have subjects that are open to both degrees. Having that said, I am now planning to do HL Math, Economics, and English LangLit (instead of psychology) since having an essay subject is quite important when applying for PPE based on what I have read. For my SLs it would be Biology, French ab initio, and I am MAYBE thinking of doing B&M for my third SL to maximise my grades. Although I understand that B&M is a soft subject that is advised doing against especially when also taking Economics, do you think top unis will still take this into account when it's only taken at SL?
I couldn't say for certain, as I'm not an admissions tutor. However, there will be a lot of other applicants (especially for the "top" courses like at Oxford) who have not taken a SL which overlaps with one of their HLs. I'd also note that HL Economics is essay based (although it does have some data based/quantitative questions as well), so you needn't necessarily take another essay based subject to HL. PPE is very much about integrating different types of approaches and knowledge to apply them to a range of contemporary issues, so those courses are normally quite happy to take those who have also taken e.g. STEM subjects or otherwise, if they can demonstrate an appropriate understanding of how political, economic, and philosophical issues intersect with these areas.

Reading widely outside of the syllabus, and knowing the material you are studying inside and out, will be more important than trying to craft some combination of subjects you think will pander to the admissions tutors.
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