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I went to the Lancaster open day today and really liked the campus and the feel of the university. They mentioned a lot of statistics about graduate employment etc. but how high, in the field is law, is Lancaster regarded? Would it harm my chances to opt to go here over, say, Nottingham or York?
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It wouldn’t harm your chances, although depends what you are aiming for.
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What you planning on doing after the degree?
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(Original post by Stabsy57)
I went to the Lancaster open day today and really liked the campus and the feel of the university. They mentioned a lot of statistics about graduate employment etc. but how high, in the field is law, is Lancaster regarded? Would it harm my chances to opt to go here over, say, Nottingham or York?
I know people who did Law at Lancaster and although it's a great Uni, I don't think they had as much contact with large legal firms as Law students typically would at Nottingham (don't know about York).
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Are you predicted AAA? I will go with J-SP and that it won't matter to recruiters; but you're probably gonna be less exposed to top firms and commercially minded students at Lanc relative especially to Notts. A lot of students' momentum to apply to open days, vacs, photography competitions and so on come from their peers. If you think you're self-motivated, this is less of a factor.

So go with Lanc if you like the scene. Do consider the difference in academic rigour, especially between Lanc and Notts. Law is taught largely the same, but the approach in terms of depth ain't the same. Even between quite "close" unis.
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What you planning on doing after the degree?
Ideally a national level firm.
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Are you predicted AAA? I will go with J-SP and that it won't matter to recruiters; but you're probably gonna be less exposed to top firms and commercially minded students at Lanc relative especially to Notts. A lot of students' momentum to apply to open days, vacs, photography competitions and so on come from their peers. If you think you're self-motivated, this is less of a factor.

So go with Lanc if you like the scene. Do consider the difference in academic rigour, especially between Lanc and Notts. Law is taught largely the same, but the approach in terms of depth ain't the same. Even between quite "close" unis.
I'm predicted A*AA
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I'm predicted A*AA
To be honest, with those predicted grades I would play safe and put Nottingham or York above Lancaster. I know it is still a very respected Uni and you shouldn't be discriminated against at the selection stage, but I think you would have more opportunities to network at the other two.

Lancaster could be a great Insurance choice if you're not very confident about achieving the A*AA
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Lancaster law soc used to be pretty good at putting on networking events and got a reasonable turn out because of it. I think I did more events at Lancaster for a couple of years than I did Nottingham, mainly because of the law soc
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I'm predicted A*AA
Some people do come back on the forum and say they let themselves down by going to the easier uni (usually halfway through Y1) -- I think they're deeply neurotic and have summit wrong with 'em. When you're in the trenches, you're still getting shot at.

Go to Lancaster, get an easy first, and on to the 100k it is.
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Go to Lancaster, get an easy first, and on to the 100k it is.
You dreamer
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You dreamer
It's why we all do it.

4-5 years NQ at a City firm, and you're in. Our venerable J-SP tells us she wasn't far off the 6 figures, iirc.
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It's why we all do it.

4-5 years NQ at a City firm, and you're in. Our venerable J-SP tells us she wasn't far off the 6 figures, iirc.
If I had been a lawyer, I would have been earning that amount much earlier though
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Thing is I had an interview to get an unconditional offer (only if I firm them) at Lancaster and I think it went well butNottingham gave me a reduced offer of AAB and if I don't put Lancaster as my first choice my offer is AAB.
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It's why we all do it.

4-5 years NQ at a City firm, and you're in. Our venerable J-SP tells us she wasn't far off the 6 figures, iirc.
Not everyone gets to work at a City firm, or even wants to.
And I don't think even many City firms pay 100k to NQ off the bat

I'm sure it's doable just not quite as easy as you made it sound for the average person starting a law degree
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Not everyone gets to work at a City firm, or even wants to.
And I don't think even many City firms pay 100k to NQ off the bat

I'm sure it's doable just not quite as easy as you made it sound for the average person starting a law degree
It’s one of Biggie’s flippant comments - you have to not take them too seriously.

Only about 10-12 firms paying £100k+ as a NQ. Quite a number who don’t pay quite that much but with benefits package and bonus, won’t be too far off that within the first year of being a NQ
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Thing is I had an interview to get an unconditional offer (only if I firm them) at Lancaster and I think it went well butNottingham gave me a reduced offer of AAB and if I don't put Lancaster as my first choice my offer is AAB.
Remember, though, that them giving you an offer of AAB doesn't mean they actually require AAB. Suppose you got ABB or even BBB, do you think they'd necessarily turn you away -- given they have zero standards for their unconditionals?

This is what I am sort of getting at -- if your peers are on unconditionals, and they achieved ABB-BBB typically (they make 60% of enrollers in '17), will you feel a bit degraded going there with A*AA or even higher? Some people will.

In other words, you're probably gonna get in to Lancaster even if you miss your offer by 2 grades.
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It’s one of Biggie’s flippant comments - you have to not take them too seriously.

Only about 10-12 firms paying £100k+ as a NQ. Quite a number who don’t pay quite that much but with benefits package and bonus, won’t be too far off that within the first year of being a NQ
My comment was flippant too

But on a serious note, it does concern me how many students seem to choose Law purely for the money when most will end up at regional firms that aren't even particularly well paid (and the ones with poor academics will be lucky if they can get a training contract at all.) But that is not OPs case, so sorry for going off at a tangent
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My comment was flippant too

But on a serious note, it does concern me how many students seem to choose Law purely for the money when most will end up at regional firms that aren't even particularly well paid (and the ones with poor academics will be lucky if they can get a training contract at all.) But that is not OPs case, so sorry for going off at a tangent
I can’t see how yours was flippant - it’s accurate.
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My comment was flippant too

But on a serious note, it does concern me how many students seem to choose Law purely for the money when most will end up at regional firms that aren't even particularly well paid (and the ones with poor academics will be lucky if they can get a training contract at all.) But that is not OPs case, so sorry for going off at a tangent
As J-SP pointed out, I think you took my post too literally. "100k" has a long history with me; I do use it somewhat ironically.

As for the latter, mid-sized regionals have some money in 'em. I wouldn't sniff at them. I personally see the money-grabbing people as the ones who actually shape all their activities around the goal of getting a TC from MC/SC -- they're the slippery devils who actually end up at the top firms. The people I know at regionals came in more humble. It might be a problem generally, but from the people I know, that's what I saw.
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