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Hi, I'm doing this question to find out what tan theta is. I'm not sure what to do next after taking moments from A
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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
Hi, I'm doing this question to find out what tan theta is. I'm not sure what to do next after taking moments from A

You don't seem to have posted your working showing you taking moments. Can you post that please?
Original post by Notnek
You don't seem to have posted your working showing you taking moments. Can you post that please?


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I think i got it now. the solution bank took moments from X (will send a pic of that). how did i get the same answer?
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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
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First tidy that up by cancelling the 'a' on both sides. Now I look at what we're trying to get to and I see a tanθ\tan \theta so my next thought is to divide this equation by cosθ\cos \theta. Try that next.

Your aim after that will be to eliminate all the non-μ\mu variables by using all of the equations that you've generated. Please post your full attempt if you get stuck.
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@Rolls_Reus_0wner I just looked at your moments equation again and one of your (sinθ\sin \theta)s is wrong. Please check your equation again.
Original post by Notnek
@Rolls_Reus_0wner I just looked at your moments equation again and one of your (sinθ\sin \theta)s is wrong. Please check your equation again.


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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
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That's correct now.
Original post by Notnek
That's correct now.


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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
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I'm guessing you're stuck from here? Looking at the final result, you'll clearly need to start introducing the μ\mu's by using the other equations.

R2R1=μ1\displaystyle \frac{R_2}{R_1} = \mu_1 looks like it will be useful...
Original post by Notnek
I'm guessing you're stuck from here? Looking at the final result, you'll clearly need to start introducing the μ\mu's by using the other equations.

R2R1=μ1\displaystyle \frac{R_2}{R_1} = \mu_1 looks like it will be useful...


final working: Took me an hour and half to figire this out...

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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
final working: Took me an hour and half to figire this out...


They're the best kind of questions - you learn so much :smile:

Im sure that your ability to tackle these long questions has improved just by doing this one. For these types of questions where they give the final result, always think about the best way to arrive at it, as I showed in posts above.
Original post by Notnek
They're the best kind of questions - you learn so much :smile:

Im sure that your ability to tackle these long questions has improved just by doing this one. For these types of questions where they give the final result, always think about the best way to arrive at it, as I showed in posts above.

One thing: how is ??? whts the proof for that?
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Original post by Rolls_Reus_0wner
One thing: how is ??? whts the proof for that?

Sorry I shouldn't just have given you this equation. You wrote

F1=R2\displaystyle F_1=R_2

F1=μ1R1\displaystyle F_1=\mu_1 R_1

and combining these gives

R2=μ1R1R2R1=μ1\displaystyle R_2 = \mu_1 R_1 \Rightarrow \frac{R_2}{R_1} = \mu_1

There are many different ways to go about the algebra in this question but the basic aim is to eliminate the non-μ\mu variables in whichever way you choose.
Original post by Notnek
Sorry I shouldn't just have given you this equation. You wrote

F1=R2\displaystyle F_1=R_2

F1=μ1R1\displaystyle F_1=\mu_1 R_1

and combining these gives

R2=μ1R1R2R1=μ1\displaystyle R_2 = \mu_1 R_1 \Rightarrow \frac{R_2}{R_1} = \mu_1

There are many different ways to go about the algebra in this question but the basic aim is to eliminate the non-μ\mu variables in whichever way you choose.

Mind blown. thanks 4 all your help

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