UK driving licence no longer valid in Ireland

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Belgians are (allegedly) terrible drivers ... or is that not what you are asking?
You are the one b8ing.

Will EU citizens living in the UK and wishing to drive here, have to get a UK licence in the event of no deal?
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You are the one b8ing.

Will EU citizens living in the UK and wishing to drive here, have to get a UK licence in the event of no deal?
It is unlikely that they won't. It is what occurs with non-EU countries now, but only after they have been here a year, I believe.
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You are the one b8ing.

Will EU citizens living in the UK and wishing to drive here, have to get a UK licence in the event of no deal?
No idea. The Irish announced their no deal plans today, I haven't seen anything from the UK regarding no-deal arrangements.

Currently you can use an Irish (or other EU) driving licence for 12 months in the UK.
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The Irish announced their no deal plans today
Rather revealingly, the bill includes no measures to put in place a hard border with NI.
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You are the one b8ing.

Will EU citizens living in the UK and wishing to drive here, have to get a UK licence in the event of no deal?
There's no reason why the government would have to change the rules from as they are at the moment, given that we already have mutual acceptance of licences and it is in both sides interests to keep this going.
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There's no reason why the government would have to change the rules from as they are at the moment, given that we already have mutual acceptance of licences and it is in both sides interests to keep this going.
Because we are in a no deal situation and have no agreement. EU citizens should be treated the same as other foreign nationals until an agreement was reached.
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Because we are in a no deal situation and have no agreement. EU citizens should be treated the same as other foreign nationals until an agreement was reached.
There's a difference between who should be allowed to move here, and accepting European driving licences - the latter is easy as all the countries in the scheme have roughly the same standard of test. Licences from Australia, New Zealand and Japan are accepted here too and that's nothing to do with any political union etc.
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There's a difference between who should be allowed to move here, and accepting European driving licences - the latter is easy as all the countries in the scheme have roughly the same standard of test. Licences from Australia, New Zealand and Japan are accepted here too and that's nothing to do with any political union etc.
You obviously havent read or understood what i wrote.
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(Original post by 999tigger)
Because we are in a no deal situation and have no agreement. EU citizens should be treated the same as other foreign nationals until an agreement was reached.
(Original post by jameswhughes)
There's a difference between who should be allowed to move here, and accepting European driving licences - the latter is easy as all the countries in the scheme have roughly the same standard of test. Licences from Australia, New Zealand and Japan are accepted here too and that's nothing to do with any political union etc.
Non-EU citizens can also drive for a year on their old licence, but unlike EU citizens will need to pass a UK test to keep driving afterwards. So in a no deal Brexit that's what would also happen to EU drivers.
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Non-EU citizens can also drive for a year on their old licence, but unlike EU citizens will need to pass a UK test to keep driving afterwards. So in a no deal Brexit that's what would also happen to EU drivers.
There's no reason why that would have to happen, unless the government wants to make things difficult for the sake of it - why would a French licence be valid one day but not the next? Would we really need permission from the EU to accept their driving licences?
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You obviously havent read or understood what i wrote.
It's not very coherent. Are you saying European driving licences should be invalid just because of no deal?
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There's no reason why that would have to happen, unless the government wants to make things difficult for the sake of it - why would a French licence be valid one day but not the next? Would we really need permission from the EU to accept their driving licences?
For the same reason an Australian licence is valid one day and not the next. No deal means EU countries are treated the same as non EU.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-nongb-licence

That's the whole point.

Madness, isn't it...
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For the same reason an Australian licence is valid one day and not the next. No deal means EU countries are treated the same as non EU.

That's the whole point.

Madness, isn't it...
Consistent though. No reason why they get to treat UK citizens unfavourably without reciprocity.
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It's not very coherent. Are you saying European driving licences should be invalid just because of no deal?
The Irish are.
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maybe the countries in our part of the world could kinda club together on these & similar issues ? just an idea :dontknow:
High time we started planning the re-admission campaign.
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There are quite a few places on the NI/RoI border where the border runs down the middle of the road. Presumably the more aggressive locals will have to rummage in the glovebox for a driving license and passport before overtaking.
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There are quite a few places on the NI/RoI border where the border runs down the middle of the road. Presumably the more aggressive locals will have to rummage in the glovebox for a driving license and passport before overtaking.
Indeed. And it has more border crossings than the entire eastern border of the EU...

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For the same reason an Australian licence is valid one day and not the next. No deal means EU countries are treated the same as non EU.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-nongb-licence

That's the whole point.

Madness, isn't it...
Non EU isn’t all the same, as different licences are held to different standards - for example Australian licences can be swapped for UK ones, while American ones cannot.

There’s no good reason why the UK would make EU/EEA licences invalid after Brexit (and nor would the EU be able to stop us accepting them), if they’re not accepted as they are today they’ll almost certainly be added to the list of countries from which you can swap for a British one.
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Indeed. And it has more border crossings than the entire eastern border of the EU...
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And many of them are sheltered from the elements by artfully constructed cowsheds.
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Non EU isn’t all the same, as different licences are held to different standards - for example Australian licences can be swapped for UK ones, while American ones cannot.
Yep, I missed that. Thanks.

There’s no good reason why the UK would make EU/EEA licences invalid after Brexit (and nor would the EU be able to stop us accepting them), if they’re not accepted as they are today they’ll almost certainly be added to the list of countries from which you can swap for a British one.
UK official guidance indicates it may be more complicated. For example, looking at the other side - the EU treatment of UK licences - the UK gov is warning:
"If you are a UK licence holder living in the EU or EEA you should exchange your UK driving licence for a local EU driving licence before 29 March 2019. From that date, in the event that there is no EU Exit deal, you may have to pass a driving test in the EU country you live in to be able to carry on driving there.
You should consider exchanging your UK driving licence for an EU driving licence as soon as possible. Increased demand may lead to longer processing times and delays to exchanging driving licences the closer it is to 29 March 2019."
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prepare-...u-after-brexit

It's curious they don't have similar no-deal guidance for EU drivers in the UK.
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