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B1469 – TV Licence (Repeal) Bill 2019, TSR Libertarian Party
TV Licence (Repeal) Bill 2019

An Act to abolish TV licence

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1: For the purpose of this Act:-
(1) A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, and to download or watch BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer.

2: Repeals
(1) Section 363 of the Communications Act 2003 is hereby repealed
(2) Section 364 of the Communications Act 2003 is hereby repealed
(3) Section 365 of the Communications Act 2003 is hereby repealed
(4) Section 366 of the Communications Act 2003 is hereby repealed
(5)Section 244 clause (7) of the Communications Act 2003 is hereby repealed
(6)Communications Television Licensing (Amendment) Regulations 2016 is hereby repealed

3. Enforcement
(1) BBC Board shall decide the best method of replacement funding for it's services
(2) Home Office shall now be responsible for emergency broadcasting

4 .Short title, Commencement, Extent
(1) This act may be cited as the TV Licence (Repeal) Act 2019
(2) This act comes into force on 1st April 2022
(3) This act extends to the UK


Notes
The TV licence is unnecessary fee on households and it costs households up to £154.50. The government have announced in 2016 that it would rise in line with inflation for five years from 1 April 2017, making the licence fee more expensive. There were 25.8 million television licences in force in 2018, raising £3.83 billion for the BBC. TV Licensing estimates that around 93% of homes and businesses are correctly licenced. BARB estimates that 95% of households have a television.

In 2018 (according to TV Licensing) 256,600 household were caught without a television licence. Watching TV without a valid licence is a criminal offence, although it is not a recordable offence that would result in a criminal record. The penalty is prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000. 10% of court cases in the country is related to television licensing, although most are dealt with procedurally, with 99% of cases resulting in a conviction. About 30 people a year are even imprisoned for non-payment of fines.

People shouldn’t be imprisoned because they can’t afford to pay the licence fee, the licence fee prevents the poorest in society from accessing television. Many of whom including students rely on illegal streaming to watch TV. More than 33,000 young people between the ages of 18 and 25 were caught watching live TV or BBC iplayer without a TV Licence in the past year.

This bill puts £154.50 back into people’s pocket and benefits the poorest of society. The licence fee essentially a TV tax is an unnecessary cost for households and broadcasting companies should not receive public funding.

We have given the BBC 3 years to decide the best method of replacement funding for it's services. The home office will now be in charge of emergency broadcasting.

Legislation and sections being repealed
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...0030021_en.pdf
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2...0160704_en.pdf
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As yet undecided to how I feel about this - there are merits, there are drawbacks - nonetheless, whilst I am happy to see a delay to implementation until 2022, I feel it may be more appropriate to have a staggered reduction in the license (i.e. 75%, 40%, 10% - potentially starting earlier - depending on the funding plans of the BBC) rather than a binary on/off transition.
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I agree with removing the tv license but bbc finding should be come from general taxation.
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''In addition this government believes that it is important that government policy keep up with modern society and technological change. Currently, government imposes a license fee on households in order to fund the BBC, radio stations and worse, local television (including a Welsh speaking channel) (21). This government fundamentally opposes this waste of taxpayers money! At a time when resources are strained our citizens are funding Welsh Nationalism and free television for the elderly over cancer treatment. To that end, from the 1st April 2020 the license fee will be abolished with the BBC either moving to a subscription or advertising based funding model in addition to potential part privatisation. It is our aim that the BBC be set free and able to increase their budget''

The budget last term failed to abolish the BBC licence fee, the government failed to repeal the relevant laws and as such the licence fee remains. The libers have to decided to fix this issue and abolish it properly. I ask the Prime minister ns_2 if he and his government will support us here considering it's their own policy?
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Aye - the TV licence is an antiquated and meaningless tax; in the day where every other TV channel uses adverts, the BBC should do likewise.
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I agree with removing the tv license but bbc finding should be come from general taxation.
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Cheers for that stunning contribution.
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Cheers for that stunning contribution.
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Nay, I won’t vote to defund the BBC. I would only abolish the license fee if a clear non-private alternative is explicitly legislated for. I would prefer a progressive charge or general taxation over a license fee but will not take the risk of it going to adverts or subscription and thus destroying one of our most important institutions. If it were to go to general taxation then I’d also want the spending on the BBC to be ringfenced.

The BBC is very important to me personally. If you only consume the content designed for the masses like BBC 1 or Radio 1 then you just won’t understand this. Even those still have some amazing content (eg Dr Who before Chibs ruined it, some of the radio on Friday nights or unsociable hours) but also a lot of trash. However the specialist content available on platforms like 6music or Radio 4 is where the BBC really shines. Again it’s not perfect but it’s what the rest of the network needs to be like really. With the license fee they can take risks and deliver stuff that boring normal people would decry as “weird”, but it’s so great to have as a little cultural outlet. This cannot survive on a commercial basis. By all means strip the BBC of the crap that can survive commercially (talent shows, Strictly, etc) but don’t come for the rare or the eclectic.
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Nay, I won’t vote to defund the BBC. I would only abolish the license fee if a clear non-private alternative is explicitly legislated for. I would prefer a progressive charge or general taxation over a license fee but will not take the risk of it going to adverts or subscription and thus destroying one of our most important institutions. If it were to go to general taxation then I’d also want the spending on the BBC to be ringfenced.

The BBC is very important to me personally. If you only consume the content designed for the masses like BBC 1 or Radio 1 then you just won’t understand this. Even those still have some amazing content (eg Dr Who before Chibs ruined it, some of the radio on Friday nights or unsociable hours) but also a lot of trash. However the specialist content available on platforms like 6music or Radio 4 is where the BBC really shines. Again it’s not perfect but it’s what the rest of the network needs to be like really. With the license fee they can take risks and deliver stuff that boring normal people would decry as “weird”, but it’s so great to have as a little cultural outlet. This cannot survive on a commercial basis. By all means strip the BBC of the crap that can survive commercially (talent shows, Strictly, etc) but don’t come for the rare or the eclectic.
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I agree with removing the TV licence but BBC funding should be come from general taxation.
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Nay, I won’t vote to defund the BBC. I would only abolish the license fee if a clear non-private alternative is explicitly legislated for. I would prefer a progressive charge or general taxation over a license fee but will not take the risk of it going to adverts or subscription and thus destroying one of our most important institutions. If it were to go to general taxation then I’d also want the spending on the BBC to be ringfenced.

The BBC is very important to me personally. If you only consume the content designed for the masses like BBC 1 or Radio 1 then you just won’t understand this. Even those still have some amazing content (eg Dr Who before Chibs ruined it, some of the radio on Friday nights or unsociable hours) but also a lot of trash. However the specialist content available on platforms like 6music or Radio 4 is where the BBC really shines. Again it’s not perfect but it’s what the rest of the network needs to be like really. With the license fee they can take risks and deliver stuff that boring normal people would decry as “weird”, but it’s so great to have as a little cultural outlet. This cannot survive on a commercial basis. By all means strip the BBC of the crap that can survive commercially (talent shows, Strictly, etc) but don’t come for the rare or the eclectic.
BBC should not receive public funding. It should be treated like all the other media companies. The problem with the BBC taking risk and trying new ideas is they don't do anything with them just sit on it, imagine if they were sold strictly, talent shows, top gear etc... for example. In fact look at all the programmes they have achieved and not being used just collecting dust on the shelf, if they were to sell them think how much money they could potentially generate.

Even then arguably BBC is not even distinct enough with its competitors offering similar things. The BBC shouldn't be seeking to be bigger and provide everything to everyone. It should instead try to specialise in areas that no one else with do.
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Like others, I will only support this if funding comes from general taxation instead of the license fee. The reality is that the BBC greatly enriches our culture and is cherished across the world, which is something we should not weaken by treating it as anything other than the property of the state.

I can see an issue with the license fee being regressive, but if there is an issue it is that - not the fact the public money goes towards it. We all benefit greatly from the BBC.
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Even then arguably BBC is not even distinct enough with its competitors offering similar things. The BBC shouldn't be seeking to be bigger and provide everything to everyone. It should instead try to specialise in areas that no one else with do.
The BBC is definitely distinct enough.
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Like others, I will only support this if funding comes from general taxation instead of the license fee. The reality is that the BBC greatly enriches our culture and is cherished across the world, which is something we should not weaken by treating it as anything other than the property of the state.

I can see an issue with the license fee being regressive, but if there is an issue it is that - not the fact the public money goes towards it. We all benefit greatly from the BBC.
Channel 4 is publicly owned and uses adverts, what is wrong with that model?
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Channel 4 is publicly owned and uses adverts, what is wrong with that model?
The absence of adverts on the BBC is something that makes it a much better service, does it not?

It is not just about adverts, though. Using public money ensures that it can pursue the creative direction it wants, rather than having to make cuts and act like a business. This is important in ensuring the service it offers everyone is as great as it is.

I wouldn't expect a libertarian to have pride in the BBC, but I hope the government can join me in the division lobby if this is not amended.
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''In addition this government believes that it is important that government policy keep up with modern society and technological change. Currently, government imposes a license fee on households in order to fund the BBC, radio stations and worse, local television (including a Welsh speaking channel) (21). This government fundamentally opposes this waste of taxpayers money! At a time when resources are strained our citizens are funding Welsh Nationalism and free television for the elderly over cancer treatment. To that end, from the 1st April 2020 the license fee will be abolished with the BBC either moving to a subscription or advertising based funding model in addition to potential part privatisation. It is our aim that the BBC be set free and able to increase their budget''

The budget last term failed to abolish the BBC licence fee, the government failed to repeal the relevant laws and as such the licence fee remains. The libers have to decided to fix this issue and abolish it properly. I ask the Prime minister ns_2 if he and his government will support us here considering it's their own policy?
We, strongly, support the view that the BBC must move away from a dependence on the state; to that end, we support the abolition of the TV Licence fee and a replacement subscription, or more likely advertising based funding model - with a greater move towards the sale of inhouse productions to foreign distributors as seen with Bodyguard and Netflix.

Crucially, however, it must be done in a sensible fashion. Whilst eventually there must be no taxpayer money (except subsidised productions) going towards the BBC, I, personally, would prefer a staggered reduction - potentially starting next year - where the BBC can 'get used' to a greater (and eventually total) reliance on the private industry.
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The absence of adverts on the BBC is something that makes it a much better service, does it not?

It is not just about adverts, though. Using public money ensures that it can pursue the creative direction it wants, rather than having to make cuts and act like a business. This is important in ensuring the service it offers everyone is as great as it is.

I wouldn't expect a libertarian to have pride in the BBC, but I hope the government can join me in the division lobby if this is not amended.
I disagree that the absence of adverts makes something a better service, it’s easy enough to go make a cuppa or check your phone for a 5 minute ad break, it’s not painful in the slightest; also, in drama programmes, advert breaks can be used to create suspense with cliffhangers in the middle of a programme, which the BBC is unable to do.

The idea that the BBC being publicly funded means it doesn’t have to make cuts is a nonsense argument, unless you assume that governments perpetually increase the licence fee every year in line with the increasing cost of production on programmes, which is evidently false.
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The absence of adverts on the BBC is something that makes it a much better service, does it not?

It is not just about adverts, though. Using public money ensures that it can pursue the creative direction it wants, rather than having to make cuts and act like a business. This is important in ensuring the service it offers everyone is as great as it is.

I wouldn't expect a libertarian to have pride in the BBC, but I hope the government can join me in the division lobby if this is not amended.
Is that why the BBC sits on the idea and does nothing with them? Look at all the archived programmes they have that is sitting on the shelf, they are not even monetising the ideas properly. Other media companies are able to pursue creative direction and do just as well. So can the BBC without public funding.
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We, strongly, support the view that the BBC must move away from a dependence on the state; to that end, we support the abolition of the TV Licence fee and a replacement subscription, or more likely advertising based funding model - with a greater move towards the sale of inhouse productions to foreign distributors as seen with Bodyguard and Netflix.

Crucially, however, it must be done in a sensible fashion. Whilst eventually there must be no taxpayer money (except subsidised productions) going towards the BBC, I, personally, would prefer a staggered reduction - potentially starting next year - where the BBC can 'get used' to a greater (and eventually total) reliance on the private industry.
Nice to hear the government will be supporting us.

There is no need for a staggered reduction, we have given them 3 years to find a replacement funding and for them to transition away from public funding. This is enough time for them to ''get used'' to it.
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