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UCL or Warwick...

I have the same thread in the UCL section, but thought that since all my answers were pro UCL is was very biased there.

I really need to make the decision soon and I dont know what to do.....

Warwick
Pros: Lots of friends go there and love it, big SU, fun campus
Cons: No big city, can be isolated

London
Pros: I love london, im doing history of art so would be great for an artish course, A lot of fun
COns: Money money money....my dads putting three kids thru uni at the same time so would not get a lot and Londons the kinda place where money goes soo fast

please help me out, I know i cant make the decision based on a studentroom thread but it would be nice to hear what other people think about it due to their knowledge of the unis.

thanks so muchh!

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My friend's going to UCL to do History of Art; it would be a huge help to be near the galleries of London, whereas Warwick is in the middle of nowhere. While you've already pointed both of these points out, I'd like to highlight them because it will make THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD to you for three years' time: the choice should be obvious.
Warwick'll be fun, go there! We can be drinking buddies :biggrin:
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Not true! Warwick has the Arts centre smack bang in the middle of the campus, which I've been told is perfect for observing culture and appreciating the arts! I'm no arts student though so I wouldnt know.
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That's true.
Reply 7
Warwick is an academic prison. Coventry is a dump. London is a huge cosmopolitan city. There are so many more options for UCL students than Warwick students.
Reply 8
Wow, can't believe some posters here could be giving serious advice...

To the OP:

Go where you want to spend the next 3 years of your life. Go to the school that appeals to you more. And most importantly, consider your parents budget for your college education.

If you really want to go to UCL but your parents can't afford to send you there, then I don't think it would be a good idea to go there, especially that your other option is as excellent if not better for your program choice.

Yes, there's no doubt that UCL is a great university, but so is Warwick. In fact, it ranks higher than UCL in many league tables. Warwick is a solid top 5 university. It is also a solid top 5 for the most selective UK unis. Maybe not for your program choice, but it is, in general. It also has a beautiful campus. UCL does not really have a university campus. Some of the buildings are old and kind of rundown and are scattered all over. There’s obviously a little feeling of being in a university facility as its set-up is so urban rather than scholarly. I also heard many UCL students complain about the housing accommodation that they get. They say it’s poor and expensive.

It is also not a good idea to base your decision on location alone. If you think being in London is an advantage, then that would make London based universities such as City U, Brunel, London South Bank, Middlesex and the like supposedly better schools than is Warwick. But clearly, such is not the case. You did not even apply to any school I mentioned. Why? Because smart students like you value academic prestige. And Warwick has a got a great academic prestige despite its location.

In finality, I think Warwick would be a perfect fit for you, that is, if you did not make it to Cambridge, your other option. Warwick has got a great academic prestige (solid top 5 in the UK), great university campus, great reputation for your program choice, great program as it has a facility in Europe specifically for such programs you intend to major in, great value for money and wonderful students and very caring and supportive academic staff to assist you all throughout your 3 years at the university.
Personally I wouldn't pick either... but UCL has to have it over Warwick for any arts course. Not to mention that living in Warwick would be suffocating. I know people who really love it, they love being surrounded by only students and by having everything so close - or at least, for first year they do...

Honestly it's down to you, do you want to be in a city with its expenses and interesting people or surrounded by student masses (where it's pretty expensive anyway) and a bit isolated. Different students like both, it is about you as a person and what you like. :smile:
The campus experience is unique and cant be matched by London in that sense. Nor can it's greenery! London can be suffocating too: highly impersonal and unwelcoming, crammed transport, heavily overpopulated, expensive, crap sports (you have to travel distance). But you have all the pros (and lots of these) of being one of the biggest and best cities in Europe.

I do like London, I just wouldn't want to live there. It isn't very student friendly. It always remained a second option for me though because the universities are very good.

Also don't listen to this nonsense of having to travel in to Warwick after you first year, either from Leamington or Coventry (which does actually have some very nice parts), because the travelling in comparison to students living in London is a lot less and cheaper.

On your list, in my humble opinion, Edinburgh would be the best place to live! But other factors count.
Reply 11
Looking at your pros and cons it does appear that you want a university within a large city or within very close proximity and I think UCL and Edinburgh fits the bill here. But I think you have made it clear that you wish to select either Warwick or UCL. If its worth noting if you choose UCL most of the halls are quite expensive and will eat up most of your student loan in your first year (unless you are prepared to live in Camden which is 20mins bus journey away). But if you are prepared to pay for a 'closer' hall you are effectively within the doorstep of what London has to offer, ranging from: museums, shops, galleries, sports, FOOD and places where famous musicians perform. This is something which no university outside of central of London could offer! There is nothing better than getting good international food from Chinatown or Bricklane or getting imported German white beer from a proper German pub!

As for UCL itself, well it has its international reputation and as a result you will have a very diverse student body. Your department is also within the UCL campus itself so there isin't any worries of having to travel to the opposite side of London to get to your lecture or classes. Also one of my friends is on the course and you may study some unique modules ithin the UoL system and in particular the Courtauld Institute. Sorry but I can't offer any more information about your course but I can notify you more information about UCL itself if you wish.
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silent ninja


On your list, in my humble opinion, Edinburgh would be the best place to live! But other factors count.


unfortunetly got an unsuccesful from edinburgh haha oh well. shood update my signature thing
Reply 13
Vincente
Looking at your pros and cons it does appear that you want a university within a large city or within very close proximity and I think UCL and Edinburgh fits the bill here. But I think you have made it clear that you wish to select either Warwick or UCL. If its worth noting if you choose UCL most of the halls are quite expensive and will eat up most of your student loan in your first year (unless you are prepared to live in Camden which is 20mins bus journey away). But if you are prepared to pay for a 'closer' hall you are effectively within the doorstep of what London has to offer, ranging from: museums, shops, galleries, sports, FOOD and places where famous musicians perform. This is something which no university outside of central of London could offer! There is nothing better than getting good international food from Chinatown or Bricklane or getting imported German white beer from a proper German pub!

As for UCL itself, well it has its international reputation and as a result you will have a very diverse student body. Your department is also within the UCL campus itself so there isin't any worries of having to travel to the opposite side of London to get to your lecture or classes. Also one of my friends is on the course and you may study some unique modules ithin the UoL system and in particular the Courtauld Institute. Sorry but I can't offer any more information about your course but I can notify you more information about UCL itself if you wish.


yeah the moduel choice of my course attracts me alot, its all just so interesting where as warwick it focuses on older history of art and UCLs more modern and diverse.

as for UCL...is it hard to like make friends and get close to people cuz ur in such a large city and not in a confined campus? and is the accomodation really bad?
stephinny
yeah the moduel choice of my course attracts me alot, its all just so interesting where as warwick it focuses on older history of art and UCLs more modern and diverse.

as for UCL...is it hard to like make friends and get close to people cuz ur in such a large city and not in a confined campus?
and is the accomodation really bad?


I really don't think you'll have this problem at any university. You'll have a close knit of friends at the uni. I just meant London as a whole is unfriendly, kinda cold, as big cities tend to be. A campus will have more of a community feel (it's a student village after all), but you'll make friends anywhere; students are all in the same boat.
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yeah the moduel choice of my course attracts me alot, its all just so interesting where as warwick it focuses on older history of art and UCLs more modern and diverse.

as for UCL...is it hard to like make friends and get close to people cuz ur in such a large city and not in a confined campus? and is the accomodation really bad?


My friend on that cours is on her 3rd year so I can't gurantee the module selection being avaiable throughout your course, though contact the department to be sure because many courses here at UCL are part of the intercollegiate system! As for London itself yes it can be a little unfriendly especially during rush hours! But at the same time if you've been around the centre there is a international/diverse and city buzz about the place as well....it always feels so lively. The people around aren't too bad to be honest but that said I'm from the suburbs of the south east and I don't randomly strike conversations with random people like some of my friends from the 'north.'

Making friends isin't too bad but I had a bad experience at first. First you will be living in student buildings each 200+ and most of them are very close to each other so meeting friends isin't a problem. Although it is certainly a bit harder than most other campus universities because at the end of the day UCL, KCL, LSE etc are situated right at the heart of London and instead of staying in so-called 'studenty' areas within a campus and many students venture out and participate in different parts of the capital along with the other 6 million inhabitants (hence less of a student community). Thus this is completely different to Cambridge whereby its a student city and has a great emphasis on student community due to the college system.

At the end of the day if you make friends early on (there are societies and department events as well) then you will be fine. Hope this helps.


HHmmmm I can see Illigan trying to again sell Warwick in everyway possible. In fact I haven't really seen any run down buildings around the UCL campus or accomodation that would be considered as poor AND expensive...
Vincente
My friend on that cours is on her 3rd year so I can't gurantee the module selection being avaiable throughout your course, though contact the department to be sure because many courses here at UCL are part of the intercollegiate system! As for London itself yes it can be a little unfriendly especially during rush hours! But at the same time if you've been around the centre there is a international/diverse and city buzz about the place as well....it always feels so lively. The people around aren't too bad to be honest but that said I'm from the suburbs of the south east and I don't randomly strike conversations with random people like some of my friends from the 'north.'

Making friends isin't too bad but I had a bad experience at first. First you will be living in student buildings each 200+ and most of them are very close to each other so meeting friends isin't a problem. Although it is certainly a bit harder than most other campus universities because at the end of the day UCL, KCL, LSE etc are situated right at the heart of London and instead of staying in so-called 'studenty' areas within a campus and many students venture out and participate in different parts of the capital along with the other 6 million inhabitants (hence less of a student community). Thus this is completely different to Cambridge whereby its a student city and has a great emphasis on student community due to the college system.

At the end of the day if you make friends early on (there are societies and department events as well) then you will be fine. Hope this helps.


HHmmmm I can see Illigan trying to again sell Warwick in everyway possible. In fact I haven't really seen any run down buildings around the UCL campus or accomodation that would be considered as poor AND expensive...


You forgot the awful building near Euston where we had the classes with Rady in term 2? :biggrin:
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You forgot the awful building near Euston where we had the classes with Rady in term 2?


Well lets be honest most science buildings across the country are generally unchanged from the 1960s and 1970s due to the sheer costs. That said all the humanities and social science buildings are very nice especially ours! But that said the uidling you mentioned isin't in the actual UCL campus technically is it?
Vincente
Well lets be honest most science buildings across the country are generally unchanged from the 1960s and 1970s due to the sheer costs. That said all the humanities and social science buildings are very nice especially ours! But that said the uidling you mentioned isin't in the actual UCL campus technically is it?


I'm not even sure what building that was built for originally (not sure what it's used for either) tbh. Technically its not on the MAIN campus i'd say, its only 5min walk though (in a ****ty side road behind Euston...I admit :P)
Reply 19
Come to UCL. If you're doing history of art, and have any interest in actually looking at art...why would you want to be anywhere else but in London?

Some of the most amazing galleries and museums in the world are here which you have pretty much free access to, plus lots of people at UCL specifically chose it because they're interested in art and culture, so you'll meet people with similar interests!

Don't worry about making friends. I don't know anyone who's here that has had any problems with that. You'll meet people through your course, halls, societies etc...same as any other uni!