University of Southampton aerospace engineering courses are so confusing

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Hi everyone so I applied for H401 MEng Aeronautics & Astronautics (4 years) back in October at University of Southampton thinking this was the main aerospace engineering course. Now I realised that also offer this other aerospace engineering course and I am not sure which one is the main and the actual aerospace engineering course. This other one is called HH34 MEng Mechanical Engineering / Aerospace (4 years).
I have also provided the link to both courses pages below. I hope someone can help me out.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engine...ronautics.page
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engine...aerospace.page
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Also if someone know why are they so many different Aeronautics & Astronautics courses? Can I transfer to those courses when I am studying?
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Hey, I’ve also applied for Aerospace Engineering at uni this year. I applied to Aeronautics and astronautics at Southampton and I believe the difference is when you begin studying specifically aerospace topics. With the aeronautics and astronautics you begin from the first year. Whereas the mech eng starts aerospace much later on in the course as a focus towards the end. But it will not go into as much detail surrounding specifically aircraft etc.
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Aero/Astro is the "main" aerospace course there. The mechE course is, as suggested by the name, a mechanical engineering course with some aerospace elements. The "specialisms" for aero/astro (e.g. aerodynamics/materials and structures/etc) are based on optional modules you choose later in the course. You'll probably be able to change between them fairly freely in the first couple years of the course, with the possible exception of the study abroad/in industry options which may have caps.
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Yeah I brought this up on here too, as well as at the applicant day.

From my understanding, YOU CAN switch between Mechanical and Aero/Astro at the end of the first year.

It brings me to this question though, why would you do Mechanical and then specialize in aero when you can be in aero/astro from the start?

They also said that Aero/Astro is accredited by both IMechE and Royal Aeronautical society whereas Mechanical Engineering is only accredited by the IMechE.

I do understand what you mean though, as it may (or may not) be more beneficial to have a degree that says "Mechanical Engineering" with aerospace as apose to just "Aero/Astro Engineering" on its own, or maybe with propulsion systems or something very specific.

Anyways, can you send them an email and confirm if they do let you change between mecheng or aero/astro, cause I asked a current student so he might have been biased/trying to sell the course.
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It brings me to this question though, why would you do Mechanical and then specialize in aero when you can be in aero/astro from the start?
Not everyone is interested in the electrical aspects that you will do in most aero degrees, and some people will also not have an interest in aero or more likely aerodynamics until later on or initially think aero is too specialised. You might also get a placement from an aerospace company which would push you in that direction.

The mech degree has much, much less aerospace content so they're not really comparable
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Not everyone is interested in the electrical aspects that you will do in most aero degrees, and some people will also not have an interest in aero or more likely aerodynamics until later on or initially think aero is too specialised. You might also get a placement from an aerospace company which would push you in that direction.

The mech degree has much, much less aerospace content so they're not really comparable
What are you on about? I hate EEE as much as most but it's pretty much an integrated part of engineering, regardless of course you WILL be doing "electronics and electrical systems" module in the first year, there's no way around that.

Aero (at southampton anyways) is REALLY similar to mechanical engineering hence why they allow you to swap course at the end of the first year. Look up the modules, all of them are the same except the "Mechanical Systems Analysis" (15 creds) has been swapped with "Aircraft Operations and Flight mechanics" (15) which doesn't sound that bad at all...

It's only in the second year that I start getting worried, "Fluid mechanics" doesn't appear at all for aero/astro which I think is a big deal... Hence why i'm also considering changing to Mechanical Engineering/Aerospace course. Again, i'm not too fussed about this right now as apparently you can swap between courses easily after first year... so long as that's true i'm fine with riding on aero/astro in the meanwhile.

The only thing i'm debating now is if it makes a difference in terms of job prospects being accredited by just one (IMechE) or two (IMechE and Royal Aeronautical Society).
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What are you on about? I hate EEE as much as most but it's pretty much an integrated part of engineering, regardless of course you WILL be doing "electronics and electrical systems" module in the first year, there's no way around that.

Aero (at southampton anyways) is REALLY similar to mechanical engineering hence why they allow you to swap course at the end of the first year. Look up the modules, all of them are the same except the "Mechanical Systems Analysis" (15 creds) has been swapped with "Aircraft Operations and Flight mechanics" (15) which doesn't sound that bad at all...

It's only in the second year that I start getting worried, "Fluid mechanics" doesn't appear at all for aero/astro which I think is a big deal... Hence why i'm also considering changing to Mechanical Engineering/Aerospace course. Again, i'm not too fussed about this right now as apparently you can swap between courses easily after first year... so long as that's true i'm fine with riding on aero/astro in the meanwhile.

The only thing i'm debating now is if it makes a difference in terms of job prospects being accredited by just one (IMechE) or two (IMechE and Royal Aeronautical Society).
I meant for later on in the course where aero typically has one or two EEE/Systems modules per year and Mech will stop with the EEE content, but TIL that soton's Mech degree has a weirdly high amount of compulsory EEE/Control systems content while their Aero degree has a weirdly low amount of it.

The lack of fluid mechanics is because that content will be covered by your aerodynamics, propulsion and aerothermodynamics modules to a higher level so it makes more sense to skip past 2nd year general fluid mechanics as you already have the basics from first year thermofluids. It's fairly easy to transfer your aerodynamics knowledge back to general fluid mechanics with a handful of small extra things which you can easily pick up outside of class if you need to, so no employer is going to worry about you not taking 2nd year fluid dynamics.

For the accreditations it really doesn't matter, as long as you have one then you can get chartered from that and it's not going to make much difference to have two unless you want to go into certification where RAeS is going to give you a noticeable head start. Of course if you only have ICE or IStructE accreditation and you're looking for Aerospace jobs then that will be problematic, but at least one of IMechE, RAeS, IET is fine for Aerospace.
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(Original post by vortexcurator)
Hi everyone so I applied for H401 MEng Aeronautics & Astronautics (4 years) back in October at University of Southampton thinking this was the main aerospace engineering course. Now I realised that also offer this other aerospace engineering course and I am not sure which one is the main and the actual aerospace engineering course. This other one is called HH34 MEng Mechanical Engineering / Aerospace (4 years).
I have also provided the link to both courses pages below. I hope someone can help me out.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engine...ronautics.page
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engine...aerospace.page
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