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Apply to a nearby masonic lodge. If you know someone who's a member it will be a lot easier. My father is a freemason, and he wanted me to join - but I don't go for all that 'brotherly love' and whathaveyou - complete waste of time.
By the way, in case you didn't know already, I don't think that you can put it on your CV.
Why do you want to join?
By the way, in case you didn't know already, I don't think that you can put it on your CV.
Why do you want to join?
I was just curious about the society. It seems like a good place to make contacts, etc.
Unregistered7
I was just curious about the society. It seems like a good place to make contacts, etc.
Contacts? Yes, there are stories of secret hand gestures that can be used in job interviews to signify that you are a freemason, but I don't think that has much basis in real life. It's really just a society where old men can get together and complain about things. Always has been.
Oh okay. Do you know anything about the hierarcy system, Mr White? Apparently there's some sort of degree system? How does a new initiate advance?
Mr White
Apply to a nearby masonic lodge. If you know someone who's a member it will be a lot easier. My father is a freemason, and he wanted me to join - but I don't go for all that 'brotherly love' and whathaveyou - complete waste of time.
By the way, in case you didn't know already, I don't think that you can put it on your CV.
Why do you want to join?
By the way, in case you didn't know already, I don't think that you can put it on your CV.
Why do you want to join?
There are restrictions on joining arent there? I read that you have to be a man and also a Protestant Christian. Anyone know if this is true?
Unregistered7
Oh okay. Do you know anything about the hierarcy system, Mr White? Apparently there's some sort of degree system? How does a new initiate advance?
Freemasonry is a semi-secret society, but there is a lot of speculation regarding the hierarcical system. No freemason seems to want to confirm any of the rumours, and I have no idea how one would advance, or whether it's based on longetivity or services.
The hierarchy is reported to follow this 33 degree system (33 being the highest):
33 Sovereign Grand Inspector General
32 Master of Royal Secret
31 Commander Inspector Inquisitor
30 Knight Kadosh
29 Scottish Knight of St. Andrews
28 Knight of the Sun
27 Commander of the Temple
26 Prince of Mercy
25 Knight of Brazen Serpent
24 Prince of Tabernacle
23 Chief of Tabernacle
22 Knight of the Royals
21 Preussen Knight
20 Master of Symbolic Lodge
19 Grand Pontiff
18 Knight of Rose Cruix
17 Knight of East and West
16 Prince of Jerusalem
15 Knight of the East
14 Grand Elect Mason
13 Royal Arch of Solomon
12 Grand Master Architect
11 Sublime Master Elected
10 Elect of Fifteen
9 Master Elect of Nine
8 Intendant of the Building
7 Provost and Judge
6 Intimate Secretary
5 Perfect Master
4 Secret Master
3 Master Mason
2 Fellow Craft
1 Entered Apprentice
(copied from Schott's Miscellany). Allegedly, 98% of freemasons are in the first 3 ranks, to advance higher than that is very rare.
Like I said earlier, none of this has been completely confirmed, but it's an accurate enough estimate.
lala
There are restircictions on joining arent there? I read that you have to be a man and also a Protestant Christian. Anyone know if this is true?
The bit about being a man is definetly true, but not neccesarily the part about being a Protestant Christian: I think that they accept any Christian or Jew (not sure about other faiths though).
lala
There are restircictions on joining arent there? I read that you have to be a man and also a Protestant Christian. Anyone know if this is true?
My grandad is a freemason, along with both of my uncles (my dad declined though). My grandad's always telling me stories of what they do there and it sounds very old-fashioned and a bit nepotistic to me. I don't think I will join.
Mr White
The bit about being a man is definetly true, but not neccesarily the part about being a Protestant Christian: I think that they accept any Christian or Jew (not sure about other faiths though).
You know a lot about this. Is it a good idea to join then? You said that you didn't want to, but what real benefits are there?
Unregistered7
You know a lot about this. Is it a good idea to join then? You said that you didn't want to, but what real benefits are there?
None per se, but there is brotherly honour, and that sort of thing, which means that fellow freemasons will always be doing each other favours. It's handy to have contacts, but there are no obvious perks of joining (like cinema discounts, free bus pass, etc.).
If you really want to join, then ask at a local beauracracy where the nearset branch is (or look on the internet, alternatively). By law, each lodge has to report who it's members are (an antiquated law), but activities always remain discrete and confidential.
I didn't want to join - I saw it as a waste of time. There is however, another society known as the 'Illuminati' which is also worth looking into (people will tell you that they are long gone, but members are still around if you know where to look).
In short, you should do some research (check out a few books, etc.) before you enlist, or alternativley, hunt down a member and ask them about it. The latter option is difficult though, as they are very discrete.
What is the Illuminati?
Unregistered7
What is the Illuminati?
Known as the 'Pupeteers of the Freemasons', unlike the Freemasons themselves (which is only semi-secret) the Illuminati are extremely secretive. Nobody really knows much about them, even members are unaware of the higher workings of the society. Founded in Paris by Adam Weishpaut around 300 years ago, they controlled the Freemasons completely (and a lot of European governments) for centuries until a discrete witchhunt was implemented by the French government which resulted in most of the leaders being killed or exiled. Having next to no influence left at the present time, they have mostly intergrated with the Freemasons, but still persist in obscure machinations.
It's practically impossible to join, but I'm going to find a way.
How will you join? Do you know what they're about?
Unregistered7
How will you join?
I haven't quite figured that part out yet.
Unregistered7
Do you know what they're about?
Historically, I am aware of what they intended, but a lot changed after the witchhunts, and present times are a lot different to medieval times. Their goals have probably changed drastically.
This is what they intended 200 years ago:
Abolition of all national governments.
Abolition of all religions.
Abolition of the family.
Abolition of private property.
Abolition of inheritance by high inheritance taxes.
Abolition of patriotism.
Creation of the world government under the United Nations controlled by the Illuminati.
Not sure how things have changed though. Probably quite drastically.
Thanks for your help Mr White. I'll do what you suggested and try to hunt down a member. I'll research it at the library as well.
Thanks again.
P.S. Good luck with that Illuminati thing. Hope to see you at the head of a world government pretty soon.
Thanks again.
P.S. Good luck with that Illuminati thing. Hope to see you at the head of a world government pretty soon.
personally i dont go for all this cult/religion stuff.but i do admit its quite interested although stupid (e.g 33 ranks and no1 passes the 3rd).but if u ask me its all bullshit.but dats jus my opinion
bruceleemk2
personally i dont go for all this cult/religion stuff.but i do admit its quite interested although stupid (e.g 33 ranks and no1 passes the 3rd).but if u ask me its all bullshit.but dats jus my opinion
It is pretty stupid in retrospect. There's no real purpose to it anymore - they don't really do anything. It's just an excuse for people to say they are more elitist than others.
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