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No, rape is not ok. I've never even heard anyone justify eating meat because lions eat meat. People eat meat because we're omnivores.
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People say it all the time. And we don't need to eat meat to survive.
Never heard anyone say that, but whatever. True, today we don't necessarily need meat to survive because we have access to food in a completely different way than what we did hundreds of years ago. You can see it as a cultural heritage to eat meat or kind of like a vestigial organ - except it's just a desire to eat meat.
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I’m a lion and I can confirm we do not rape each other.
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Does that mean rape is ok? I guess it does because people justify eating meat because lions eat animals.

Yeah logic.
Some animals rape other animals, (although as far as I'm aware the actual percentages involved are extremely low).
Would you like to hazard a guess as to what % of lions eat meat?

Regardless, meat is delicious, try a bacon sandwich and tell me otherwise
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Meat is suffering, cruelty and torture. So you can take that smug emoji a f uck right off you arrogant p rick.
You never answered my question.
Are you going to go on a vigil to lions rating meat to prevent all this cruelty? Pretty sure the lions' prey don't want to be eaten...

And in response to your delightful PM, you're part of humanity I'm afraid.

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Meat is suffering, cruelty and torture. So you can take that smug emoji a f uck right off you arrogant p rick.
So you vegan? Bringing up cows just to get milk and take their new borns away from them seems pretty cruel to me.
If animals that are eaten are at least brought up and have a good life while they're alive, I don't think they suffer very much at all.
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Darn, had to put down my sausage to read this.
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Very few animals do considering most of them live in appalling conditions like factory farms. Even the ones that do still end up getting electrocuted and their throats cut anyway.
Might be so in the UK, although countries like Sweden have very strict laws over how animals are allowed to be brought up. I think by law cows have to be outside grazing for a minimum of 4 months per year, but most end up being outside until it gets too cold. But most importantly, it's law that when animals are slaughtered, they use anaesthesia, so they don't feel any pain.

Eating meat isn't so bad as long as you make sure you're buying the meat from places where animals are actually respected, so don't judge or insult people who do choose to eat meat.

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So you vegan? Bringing up cows just to get milk and take their new borns away from them seems pretty cruel to me.
If animals that are eaten are at least brought up and have a good life while they're alive, I don't think they suffer very much at all.
Let's look at that attitude. If you live a good life up until the point of death, it is ok to live a pre-determined timeline at life and die at a pre-determined point in time.

How many animals do you think live a 'good' life, when the animal agriculture structure is predominately commercialised and ran by conglomerates who factory farm. Suffering infiltrates every strand of animal products - every animal in the system is killed prematurely and almost all of them have led a life from birth to death of neglect, suffering and cruelty.

In addition - just because you ((anyone)) wants animal products... what gives you the moral power to say I can determine a life of suffering, and your death because I simply want to taste.
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If Lions raping other animals is nature, let it be.

It does not justify rape in civilisation - but nature has and will continued to be destroyed by human intervention.
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Let's look at that attitude. If you live a good life up until the point of death, it is ok to live a pre-determined timeline at life and die at a pre-determined point in time.

How many animals do you think live a 'good' life, when the animal agriculture structure is predominately commercialised and ran by conglomerates who factory farm. Suffering infiltrates every strand of animal products - every animal in the system is killed prematurely and almost all of them have led a life from birth to death of neglect, suffering and cruelty.

In addition - just because you ((anyone)) wants animal products... what gives you the moral power to say I can determine a life of suffering, and your death because I simply want to taste.
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(Original post by NSDAP)
Let's look at that attitude. If you live a good life up until the point of death, it is ok to live a pre-determined timeline at life and die at a pre-determined point in time.

How many animals do you think live a 'good' life, when the animal agriculture structure is predominately commercialised and ran by conglomerates who factory farm. Suffering infiltrates every strand of animal products - every animal in the system is killed prematurely and almost all of them have led a life from birth to death of neglect, suffering and cruelty.

In addition - just because you ((anyone)) wants animal products... what gives you the moral power to say I can determine a life of suffering, and your death because I simply want to taste.
Read my previous reply to @pasertw , depending on where you get your meat, animals actually do have a good life. I do not support meat production in factories where animals are locked into stalls where they can't move and live their whole life there, I am completely against that.

As for letting animals die at a pre-determined point in time, you make a point. But on the other hand, had these animals been in the wild, they're less likely to survive into adulthood and even in adulthood they're likely to get killed by other predators. So it's not really a huge difference? And I would rather live a shorter life but a good life, than a bad and long life.

In addition, you're assuming I eat meat because I think it is okay for people to eat meat as long as the animals they eat were treated well while they lived. I am a vegan actually, but I am vegan because of other reasons. Many reliable studies have proved that animal products (particularly red meat) contain carcinogenic compounds, and overall a vegan diet is healthier, so therefore I choose to be vegan.
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Getting electrocuted and your throat cut sounds nice to you?
If I'm under anaesthesia, I can't feel anything, so it wouldn't matter how I die.
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That's actually a common misconception. The paradigm inherent to the postmodernist fallacy of a priori knowledge stems from a systemic predilection to binary dichotomies.
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Darn, had to put down my sausage to read this.
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Why are vegans and vegetarians soo obsessed with stuffing their ideas/views down other people's throats?

#meatislyf
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Bears respect other creatures. except salmon.

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That's actually a common misconception. The paradigm inherent to the postmodernist fallacy of a priori knowledge stems from a systemic predilection to binary dichotomies.
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Why are vegans and vegetarians soo obsessed with stuffing their ideas/views down other people's throats?

#meatislyf
Why are meat eaters so obsessed with asserting that someone expressing their opinion on the internet, on a page they choose to look at, is "forcing them into an opinion". Because words on a screen can do that...

#Govegan

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Why are vegans and vegetarians soo obsessed with stuffing their ideas/views down other people's throats?
Because non-vegans are obsessed with slitting other living being's throats, and such.
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I'm confused by what this thread's going for but anyway... Do most animals even have a proper consent concept?
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