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i'm a muslim, and am still in the process of becoming firm in faith. it's been difficult, and i'll be honest - there was a stage in my life where i truly believed i was bisexual, and closeted. i guess i'm not, as if i was ever interested in a girl, it was only sexual fantasies.

i'll tell you honestly - it IS a test. probably one of the hardest ones from allah. my advice to you is to remain strong in your faith, and don't let this become too much for you. however controversial this might seem - i'm sure your feelings about women will change as time passes on. i suggest reading quran and understanding more about islam - it'll really open your mind and heal you spiritually, wallahi. all i can say to you is to pray to allah to guide you, and help you restrain and control your feelings. inshallah things get better. don't feel condemned because of your feelings - there are any people in the same position as you. don't let it drive you away from islam.

i know two girls who are bisexual and muslim, and unfortunately it seems like they've both turned away from islam, feeling attacked by other muslims and what people say about homosexuality. don't let that be you. the only advice i can give you, without making it seem like i'm condemning you and forcing you to be straight, is to pray to allah. he is all forgiving and the most merciful. and remember: no one is punished for their thoughts. allah swt does not punish anyone for thinking sinful things - it's human nature to have nafs. inshallah, you will be rewarded for your struggle.
They should set aside Islam and find themselves first. Otherwise they will end up with mentsl health problems because if cultural pressure. 'Culture' does not always make sense and it is not a religion.
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Well ; in the start of my answer lemme be clear I have no prejudice against Homos.
Now coming to ur question . u say u are practising religion and still.u can't control ur homo feeling .. Its as equal as u cant control yourself from doing other undesirable deeds too.
Dude u need to be more stronger in ur belief. (I m.only saying if u feel that u gotta to remove this unnatural likings ) .
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Did you realise there's such a thing as islamophobia but not with any other religion? Why do you think this is?
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Well ; in the start of my answer lemme be clear I have no prejudice against Homos.
Now coming to ur question . u say u are practising religion and still.u can't control ur homo feeling .. Its as equal as u cant control yourself from doing other undesirable deeds too.
Dude u need to be more stronger in ur belief. (I m.only saying if u feel that u gotta to remove this unnatural likings ) .
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That is the point. he does not think that being gay is an 'undesirable deed' but you do. He would be well advised to separate from Islam and regain his mental health rather than try to ' cure' his homosexuality . His community culture will only make thimgs worse unless he gets support from the muslim lgbt communities. Muslim heterosexual males in particular will only add to his suffering with their legalistic and non compassionate interpretation of Islam.
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Well, you got every point correct and I peacefully agree with you. But lets not blame only Islamic belief for that. For u may be islamophobic but i am not. If I say my religion also condemns homo then my heterosexual followers, in particular, will only add to Lgbt suffering with their legalistic and non-compassionate interpretation of my religion which isn't islamic lets be fair here for once and lets say Religion and not only bash islam
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That is the point. he does not think that being gay is an 'undesirable deed' but you do. He would be well advised to separate from Islam and regain his mental health rather than try to ' cure' his homosexuality . His community culture will only make thimgs worse unless he gets support from the muslim lgbt communities. Muslim heterosexual males in particular will only add to his suffering with their legalistic and non compassionate interpretation of Islam.
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To all the people who have written in the thread I started.
The islam i know and have been taught does not discriminate or looks down upon any community, regardless of their race, gender or community.
I understand the Quranic interpretations and obviously understand the fact that a homosexual intercourse may be prohibited. Why I started this thread was because of 73 fiqahs that exist and each understands itself to be the absolute school of thought. Now try and understand what I write here. I’m the story of Lut, men slept with other men just for the sake of deriving an unusual pleasure and an easier way out rather than sleeping with women. People may not understand this but this is still very much prevalent in Asia, because women are the ‘honorable’ folk.
Secondly though I very well understand where you come from, but at least think before denying something and shunning it completely. All the heterosexuals, What would you feel like if You being a man would be forced by the Society and people to fall in love and marry a man? Or being a woman marry a woman? Feels unnatural and absurd right? It’s the same how I feel since i was three when people said that I needed to like girls and marry a girl when I grow up. Please don’t hurt the people who are looking for answers.
All I wanted to ask was that whether the people that say there is no such thing as homosexuality. I wanted to ask my Muslim counterparts on how could they say so when they have not experienced it? It is very easy to make fun of other’s trials. I wanted to know if there has been anything said about people like me and I wanted to reaffirm myself that I’m not unnatural. I may miss a gene, have a different genetic code or an error destined by Almighty in my formation, but I am not crazy.
To all the non Muslims. As you do not know about Islam other than the CNN and fox propaganda and the aspects of modern warfare. Why shall one speak when one does not have enough knowledge. Try reading Quran just as a book and you would find it rather beautiful and compelling. I don’t force you to think otherwise but don’t spread hate.
I don’t know what more to say. This has turned into islamophobia and not homophobia anymore
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Well said; especially the last part. I really do hope you find your peace and find your way, being heterosexual I cannot imagine myself being forced to marry a girl, I can only begin to imagine what you've been through suppressing all your emotions. After having read the different perspectives, what do you think you will decide to do now?
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To all the people who have written in the thread I started.
The islam i know and have been taught does not discriminate or looks down upon any community, regardless of their race, gender or community.
I understand the Quranic interpretations and obviously understand the fact that a homosexual intercourse may be prohibited. Why I started this thread was because of 73 fiqahs that exist and each understands itself to be the absolute school of thought. Now try and understand what I write here. I’m the story of Lut, men slept with other men just for the sake of deriving an unusual pleasure and an easier way out rather than sleeping with women. People may not understand this but this is still very much prevalent in Asia, because women are the ‘honorable’ folk.
Secondly though I very well understand where you come from, but at least think before denying something and shunning it completely. All the heterosexuals, What would you feel like if You being a man would be forced by the Society and people to fall in love and marry a man? Or being a woman marry a woman? Feels unnatural and absurd right? It’s the same how I feel since i was three when people said that I needed to like girls and marry a girl when I grow up. Please don’t hurt the people who are looking for answers.
All I wanted to ask was that whether the people that say there is no such thing as homosexuality. I wanted to ask my Muslim counterparts on how could they say so when they have not experienced it? It is very easy to make fun of other’s trials. I wanted to know if there has been anything said about people like me and I wanted to reaffirm myself that I’m not unnatural. I may miss a gene, have a different genetic code or an error destined by Almighty in my formation, but I am not crazy.
To all the non Muslims. As you do not know about Islam other than the CNN and fox propaganda and the aspects of modern warfare. Why shall one speak when one does not have enough knowledge. Try reading Quran just as a book and you would find it rather beautiful and compelling. I don’t force you to think otherwise but don’t spread hate.
I don’t know what more to say. This has turned into islamophobia and not homophobia anymore
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mgi did not at any point bash Islam or blame Islam in that post. It is close to a fact that the Islamic community and his culture would make things harder for him if they are predominantly religious; this is coming from someone who lives in a Muslim country. Just like how it would if someone was living with religious Christians. If anything, his post was quite informative advising OP to separate religion from figuring himself out for the sake of his mental-wellbeing. No need to spread PC culture and preaches when it is not required. I also like that he said "noncompassionate interpretation of Islam" because that is what it is: mere interpretations of texts. He is not claiming that the religion is noncompassionate, but that you can make an interpretation to be -- and you can also not. If anything I found his post more informative, helpful and tolerant than the posts you've written thus far.
(Original post by ClairaSuzen)
Well, you got every point correct and I peacefully agree with you. But lets not blame only Islamic belief for that. For u may be islamophobic but i am not. If I say my religion also condemns homo then my heterosexual followers, in particular, will only add to Lgbt suffering with their legalistic and non-compassionate interpretation of my religion which isn't islamic lets be fair here for once and lets say Religion and not only bash islam
Peace
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Islam isnt the only religion that doesnt agree the lgbtq+ community, literally almost all of them (religions) have been known to have some sort of disagreement with them. So this shouldnt have turned into a post where we slated islam. I doubt i wouldve found these sorts of responses on a catholic person questioning their sexual identity. I myself am not a muslim so i dont feel like i can give advice to the original poster. But i am lgbtq i can say that we would accept you, but we would also understand that your faith is very important to you, there are others that are just like you. Only you can decide what you want to do, and just know you have a whole community backing you and your faith up. (Im not saying comeeeee join usssss im just trying to emphasise my point that youll be okay)
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