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"Italian children have been told not to turn up to school unless they can prove they have been properly vaccinated.
The deadline follows months of national debate over compulsory vaccination.

Parents risk being fined up to €500 (£425; $560) if they send their unvaccinated children to school. Children under six can be turned away.

The new law came amid a surge in measles cases - but Italian officials say vaccination rates have improved since it was introduced."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47536981


"Italian children have been told not to turn up to school unless they can prove they have been properly vaccinated.
The deadline follows months of national debate over compulsory vaccination.

Parents risk being fined up to €500 (£425; $560) if they send their unvaccinated children to school. Children under six can be turned away.

The new law came amid a surge in measles cases - but Italian officials say vaccination rates have improved since it was introduced."
That's just dum. Poor kids :erm:
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Great idea. The unvaccinated kids can all go to the same school and spread their diseases freely, but they don't have a right to infect the children of non-retarded parents.
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That's just dum. Poor kids :erm:
They should get vaccinated then. You should be saying poor kids because their parents aren't protecting them from disease.
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They should get vaccinated then. You should be saying poor kids because their parents aren't protecting them from disease.
Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
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Isn't the risk that these unvaccinated kids could carry diseases and infect kids who cannot accept vaccinations for medical reasons?
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That's just dum. Poor kids :erm:
How so? Many countries have equivalent rules, including Belgium, France, USA and several Australian states. It makes sure that society is protected by herd immunity from dangerous diseases.

Perhaps the space vacated by ISIS in the Middle east can be turned over to the anti-vaxxers so they can have their own civilisation without modern medical techniques.
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
Sure, let's open the kids up to catching diseases that should have died out centuries ago. :rolleyes:
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So? They're idiots and wrong. Don't have to recognise something that's moronic, anti-science, and not based in any kind of fact.
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
There's a reason the government is getting involved; it's in the best interest of the rest of the country/world when people get vaccinated. The few who choose not to vaccinate can lead to an epidemic.
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Isn't the risk that these unvaccinated kids could carry diseases and infect kids who cannot accept vaccinations for medical reasons?
I've not heard of people not being able to have vaccines for medical reasons? If that was the case though, they could just get a note from their doctor to say so.
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
The best recognition of a child, unvaccinated without medical reason, is to keep it away from the school in the interests of society.
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I've not heard of people not being able to have vaccines for medical reasons? If that was the case though, they could just get a note from their doctor to say so.
I am not familiar with the anti-vax debate -- as some on here who enjoy it. I thought this was an aspect of it.

No, I mean the harm in not vaccinating is in what it does to others. I.e. I was providing a justification for this rule (if what I said is correct).

You seem to think I was rejecting it and saying "the poor kids cannot get vaccinated and they're gonna be kicked out of school".
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
Some people don't want to pay tax, or obey the speed limit, or not murder people.
Did you have a point?
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The few who choose not to vaccinate can lead to an epidemic.
How tho? Those who don’t vaccinate are the only ones at risk from this disease since all the others have resistance.
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Some parent's don't want this done tho, so the school should recognise that.
Those parents are intellectually barren pinheads who think chatrooms are a more credible source of information that scientific research.
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That's just dum. Poor kids :erm:
Excuse me? Poor kids?

We’ll see how poor they are when all the children are safe from measles, polio, tetanus, Hepatitis B and whopping cough and they actually live to graduate.
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I am not familiar with the anti-vax debate
It is very simple: on one hand, some idiots believe that vaccines cause harm, based on coincidental conditions arising after a vaccine in some people, and refuse to have them; on the other side of the debate are scientists who say, with evidence, that they are wrong.

It is rather like choosing not to drink water because people have been known to have a heart attack immediately after doing so.
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How tho? Those who don’t vaccinate are the only ones at risk from this disease since all the others have resistance.
No. There are always people (babies, for instance) who are as yet unvaccinated and need the herd immunity for protection, and there are a few people (ones with life-threatening allergies or cancer sufferers) who cannot use vaccine. We need 95% of all people to be vaccinated to protect these people, so don't want people unvaccinated because of anti-vaxxing.
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No. There are always people (babies, for instance) who are as yet unvaccinated and need the herd immunity for protection, and there are a few people (ones with life-threatening allergies or cancer sufferers) who cannot use vaccine.
That and no one want's to be tripping over all the rotting corpses of medieval diseases, gross :mad:
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How tho? Those who don’t vaccinate are the only ones at risk from this disease since all the others have resistance.
There are people who cannot be vaccinated due to existing illness, poor immune system, etc. These conditions often make them especially at-risk from common diseases like measles and mumps. These are the people protected by "herd immunity". Once the number of unvaccinated people in a group reaches a certain level, herd immunity no longer works.
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