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Hello there!

I just recently had an interview for the F2 standalone program and they just told me that it was unsuccessful Basically, they said that since I had no previous FY1 experience they think it's too early for me to start an FY2 job. In a couple of weeks I will start working for four months in Scotland as an FY1, but still they thought it won't be enough. Also, it's a LAS post so it seems like it won't count for my training.

I'm trying to think what to do next. I already found some F1 and F2 jobs advertised in the NHS website. So I might try to complete my foundation training without being part of the official programme. But the problem is that I am just reading about all the different type of posts (Training: LAT, standalone. Non training: LAS, locum..), and I am a bit worried that if I don't find a training post and end up doing LAS/locum, I wont be able to start my speciality because I wont be granted an "alternative certificate" (I think that is how it's called).

I studied my medical degree in Europe and I'm not from UK, so I'm still not very familiar with the system. Trying to figure all this out. If someone could please give me some advice or guidance on what to do next, I would really appreciate it. Also, just in case, I have already a full registration with a license to practice. Thanks a lot !
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hello, Dont feel bad ur gonna do great. if not this year then next year. But i have one question how do u know if the application is successful or not. Because i had my score 58, very baad i know, been crying the whole night. But on my oriel it only says interview complete not successful or not.good luck
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And also i think You are on the right track just apply for the NHS jobs that you find as f1 and reapply next year for the standalone FY2. You should apply for a non training post f1. I think that would be your best chance.
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Hello docsaaaaa, I'm quite sure that your interview is successful! in my oriel account it says "interview unsuccessful", so I'm quite sure you'll do fine Congratulations!

My idea actually was to start in August (after my FY1 job) a FY2 post because I would like to start my specialty as soon as possible.. That's why I was wondering if I could just do the f2 year via jobs I find in the NHS webpage and get signed off to start my speciality in 2020. Do you think that could be possible? Thank you so much for your advice
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Hey angela,

Thank you. I Think in your case you have to wait for the interview results meaning wether u were deemed appointable for F1 or F2. So basically last year around 60 people were successful and of them 6 were deemed unappointable for F1 while rest were fine. So maybe they will not let you do F2 posts rather F1 posts (not sure on this one). So what I think the next steps for you would be the following:
-wait for the clearance of training F1 jobs, if there was enough spots than its good (last year there was not any)
-ur second option would be to apply for nontraining posts for F1 or F2 (Not sure if F2) through the NHS jobs. then next year you will apply again for FY2 stand alone posts and I am sure you will be successful.
Again keep ur chin up dont worry about this interview i am sure ur gonna become a great doc

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Hello docsaaaaa, I'm quite sure that your interview is successful! in my oriel account it says "interview unsuccessful", so I'm quite sure you'll do fine Congratulations!

My idea actually was to start in August (after my FY1 job) a FY2 post because I would like to start my specialty as soon as possible.. That's why I waswondering if I could just do the f2 year via jobs I find in the NHS webpage and get signed off to start my speciality in 2020. Do you think that could be possible? Thank you so much for your advice
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Thank you so much for your advice and for the information! It definitely sounds really interesting the fact that they could still offer me a FY1. Let's see how it goes!

So I'm still not 100% sure... but it seems like I could actually complete a FY2 (not standalone) starting in August 2019, and get an "Alternative Certificate" signed by a consultant who has supervised me for at least 3 continuous months. Basically the certificate would demonstrate that I achieved the required Foundation Professional Capabilities. It seems like a good option for me because I really don't want to wait an extra year to start my specialisation. Do you know anything about this option? Thanks a lot for your help, really!
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Hey angela,

Thank you. I Think in your case you have to wait for the interview results meaning wether u were deemed appointable for F1 or F2. So basically last year around 60 people were successful and of them 6 were deemed unappointable for F1 while rest were fine. So maybe they will not let you do F2 posts rather F1 posts (not sure on this one). So what I think the next steps for you would be the following:
-wait for the clearance of training F1 jobs, if there was enough spots than its good (last year there was not any)
-ur second option would be to apply for nontraining posts for F1 or F2 (Not sure if F2) through the NHS jobs. then next year you will apply again for FY2 stand alone posts and I am sure you will be successful.
Again keep ur chin up dont worry about this interview i am sure ur gonna become a great doc
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(Original post by angela_ecco)
Thank you so much for your advice and for the information! It definitely sounds really interesting the fact that they could still offer me a FY1. Let's see how it goes!

So I'm still not 100% sure... but it seems like I could actually complete a FY2 (not standalone) starting in August 2019, and get an "Alternative Certificate" signed by a consultant who has supervised me for at least 3 continuous months. Basically the certificate would demonstrate that I achieved the required Foundation Professional Capabilities. It seems like a good option for me because I really don't want to wait an extra year to start my specialisation. Do you know anything about this option? Thanks a lot for your help, really!
I think you will find this quite difficult unless you have a consultant who just doesn't care much. My experience working in a hospital, most consultants will not sign this after 3 continuous months. They want to see you on the ward working for 6 months before they sign anything (ideally a year), and even then, they may be reluctant to say you're competent for higher speciality training.
This is a huge issue when you have people who have done 3+ years in a foreign country, and passed MRCP parts 1-3, so you could say they're SpR level, but consultants still tell you to apply to IMT despite the fact they've already done the equivalent in their home country.

Your best bet is to apply to the F1 program this year (I think the leftover posts open in April), and that'll give you a good foundation going into F2 posts. You may need to redo the F2 interview - but I think you'll find your trust will probably offer you a job where you do your F1.
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(Original post by angela_ecco)
Hello there!

I just recently had an interview for the F2 standalone program and they just told me that it was unsuccessful Basically, they said that since I had no previous FY1 experience they think it's too early for me to start an FY2 job. In a couple of weeks I will start working for four months in Scotland as an FY1, but still they thought it won't be enough. Also, it's a LAS post so it seems like it won't count for my training.

I'm trying to think what to do next. I already found some F1 and F2 jobs advertised in the NHS website. So I might try to complete my foundation training without being part of the official programme. But the problem is that I am just reading about all the different type of posts (Training: LAT, standalone. Non training: LAS, locum..), and I am a bit worried that if I don't find a training post and end up doing LAS/locum, I wont be able to start my speciality because I wont be granted an "alternative certificate" (I think that is how it's called).

I studied my medical degree in Europe and I'm not from UK, so I'm still not very familiar with the system. Trying to figure all this out. If someone could please give me some advice or guidance on what to do next, I would really appreciate it. Also, just in case, I have already a full registration with a license to practice. Thanks a lot !
Hi,

Do you know how a non-EEA graduate/IMG could apply for a FY1 programme after PLAB?
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Anyone completed F2 stand alone interview but not received a rank yet/ know why no jobs in LDN are available?
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Thank you so much for your advice.. It really helped me make a decision. After thinking about it long enough I decided to do an F1 program this year and then continue with a F2, hopefully through the oficial way.

Thank you so much again for your help! I really appreciate it
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I think you will find this quite difficult unless you have a consultant who just doesn't care much. My experience working in a hospital, most consultants will not sign this after 3 continuous months. They want to see you on the ward working for 6 months before they sign anything (ideally a year), and even then, they may be reluctant to say you're competent for higher speciality training.
This is a huge issue when you have people who have done 3+ years in a foreign country, and passed MRCP parts 1-3, so you could say they're SpR level, but consultants still tell you to apply to IMT despite the fact they've already done the equivalent in their home country.

Your best bet is to apply to the F1 program this year (I think the leftover posts open in April), and that'll give you a good foundation going into F2 posts. You may need to redo the F2 interview - but I think you'll find your trust will probably offer you a job where you do your F1.
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Sorry I dont really now much about PLAB exam and entry requirements.. sorry about that!
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Hi,

Do you know how a non-EEA graduate/IMG could apply for a FY1 programme after PLAB?
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Did they not send you an email? Maybe you should check SPAM. I received an email with a PDF in it, and inside that PDF you could see the final percentage of your interview together with some comments. Also you can check in your oriel page for the result. Good luck!
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Anyone completed F2 stand alone interview but not received a rank yet/ know why no jobs in LDN are available?
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anyone know if you accept an offer for a post if you can withdraw it after (obviously for good reason) thanks!
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(Original post by angela_ecco)
Hello there!

I just recently had an interview for the F2 standalone program and they just told me that it was unsuccessful Basically, they said that since I had no previous FY1 experience they think it's too early for me to start an FY2 job. In a couple of weeks I will start working for four months in Scotland as an FY1, but still they thought it won't be enough. Also, it's a LAS post so it seems like it won't count for my training.

I'm trying to think what to do next. I already found some F1 and F2 jobs advertised in the NHS website. So I might try to complete my foundation training without being part of the official programme. But the problem is that I am just reading about all the different type of posts (Training: LAT, standalone. Non training: LAS, locum..), and I am a bit worried that if I don't find a training post and end up doing LAS/locum, I wont be able to start my speciality because I wont be granted an "alternative certificate" (I think that is how it's called).

I studied my medical degree in Europe and I'm not from UK, so I'm still not very familiar with the system. Trying to figure all this out. If someone could please give me some advice or guidance on what to do next, I would really appreciate it. Also, just in case, I have already a full registration with a license to practice. Thanks a lot !
Hi. Could you kindly tell that what questions are usually asked on F2 interviews. I’ve applied for a few posts and want to be prepared for the interviews, if I get a call.
Thank you.
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