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(Original post by AperfectBalance)
-We lost the vote
-The vote doesnt matter referendums are stupid and so is listening to the people in situations like this
-WOW LOOK 1 MILLION VOTES LOOKS LIKE MAY IS DONE FOR!!!!!!
-petitions and votes can and should influence decisions
-cry about Russian interference and deny it happening in this situation

Very nice
Exactly, it's funny to see that the same people who claim the referendum was unfair/rigged/fraudulent are now taking some online poll as serious evidence.
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36 to go!
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It was adequately creepy :yep:
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:woo:

It was adequately creepy :yep:
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Exactly, the people chose poorly and now we get to watch the carnage unfold.
I suspect that in general, Leave voters will be more adversely affected by a No Deal Brexit.

I'm not too worried about my future, I'm young, fit and healthy. But all those Brexiteer old people that rely on the NHS, they are going to be in a pickle.
Likewise. I have assessed the potential impact and it should be minimal, but I'm lucky in my personal circumstances.
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The next general election is after the parliament from the previous one has served its time. This would be the equivalent of having another general election before the MPs had even taken their seats.

However, personally I'm not against another referendum as I'm sure the result would be the same again.
I'm pretty much past caring now.
Parliament should really do their job and act in the best interests of the country/their constituents rather than worrying about re-election. But they won't. I can see many of them losing their bottle/conscience and voting for May's Deal simply to avoid No Deal, when the only rational course is to revoke A50 and damn the spittle-flecked outrage of Leavers. But reason often pales next to self-interest. 'Twas always thus. it's why we are up this creek in the first place.
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Funny that you should call it fake news. The petition has been hijacked by tens of thousands of fake signatures from North Korea and Afghanistan. But you won't hear of that on the biased BBC...

https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/f...ke-signatures/
"Tens of thousands"?
Did you actually look at the data or just take the word of a partisan website?
There have been 3 votes from Afghanistan and 1 from North Korea.
But then, when have Leavers ever worried about those inconvenient little things called "facts"?
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Yawn.

Until you get 17.5 million signatures, stfu.
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1,500,000 signatures now.

17 million is highly unlikely but you can bet the EU is noticing the interest in this petition.

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"Tens of thousands"?
Did you actually look at the data or just take the word of a partisan website?
There have been 3 votes from Afghanistan and 1 from North Korea.
But then, when have Leavers ever worried about those inconvenient little things called "facts"?
Yes there are currently 1,261,367 signatures from the UK which is 84% of the total.
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Yawn.

Until you get 17.5 million signatures, stfu.
Don't get your knickers in a twist, pal. Just a bit of harmless democratic process.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is article 50? have heard it a lot but dont really understand it, afaik it's the thing that's keeping us in the EU?
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Forgive my ignorance but what is article 50? have heard it a lot but dont really understand it, afaik it's the thing that's keeping us in the EU?
Art.50 sets out how we notify the EU that we wish to leave. Hence, we have given the EU an Art. 50 notification.

The revocation of Art. 50 is essentially telling the EU we no longer wish to leave; which we can do unilaterally (i.e without the EU's consent) according to the Court of Justice of the EU.
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Art.50 sets out how we notify the EU that we wish to leave. Hence, we have given the EU an Art. 50 notification.

The revocation of Art. 50 is essentially telling the EU we are no longer wish to leave; which we can do unilaterally (i.e without the EU's consent) according to the Court of Justice of the EU.
Ohhh so the petition is so we can remain in the EU? Thanks notoriety
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Forgive my ignorance but what is article 50? have heard it a lot but dont really understand it, afaik it's the thing that's keeping us in the EU?
According to the petitioners, revoking Article 50 (the intent to leave the EU) keeps us in it. But I would think twice about it because we already had the referendum, literally nothing stops Lord EU from deciding to punish us even if we had voted Remain since we'd be viewed as a naughty kid that stepped out of line.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is article 50? have heard it a lot but dont really understand it, afaik it's the thing that's keeping us in the EU?
You missed blissful.

Do Guinea pigs care? Nope they are too smart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ion-youll-find
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According to the petitioners, revoking Article 50 (the intent to leave the EU) keeps us in it. But I would think twice about it because we already had the referendum, literally nothing stops Lord EU from deciding to punish us even if we had voted Remain since we'd be viewed as a naughty kid that stepped out of line.
Thats very interesting to know, thank you shawn

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You missed blissful.

Do Guinea pigs care? Nope they are too smart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ion-youll-find
To be honest if guineas ran the government we would be in a much better place than we are currently
Thanks for the link tigger :hugs:
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You missed blissful.

Do Guinea pigs care? Nope they are too smart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ion-youll-find
Tay-Tay said it best, haters gonna hate.
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"Tens of thousands"?
Did you actually look at the data or just take the word of a partisan website?
There have been 3 votes from Afghanistan and 1 from North Korea.
But then, when have Leavers ever worried about those inconvenient little things called "facts"?
I mean there have been 3 votes using an ip in Afghanistan and 1 using an ip from North Korea
Just as easy for some Chinese 50 cent member to do the same but with a uk VPN and for anyone else wanting to do this.

Not that I deny tha there are more than 1m people who want to stay but it just seems "RUSSIAN BOT FARMS!" has become codeword from the left for "Result I really dont like"
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Ohhh so the petition is so we can remain in the EU? Thanks notoriety
It would mean this current process to Leave would stop, but doesn't prevent the UK from restarting it from scratch (by reinvoking Art50) immediately or at any stage in the future.

The actual effect is to take a breath and think about the next steps without worrying about crashing out.

It's also likely to result in Theresa May resigning and possibly a General Election.

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I mean there have been 3 votes using an ip in Afghanistan and 1 using an ip from North Korea
Just as easy for some Chinese 50 cent member to do the same but with a uk VPN and for anyone else wanting to do this.

Not that I deny tha there are more than 1m people who want to stay but it just seems "RUSSIAN BOT FARMS!" has become codeword from the left for "Result I really dont like"
So if folks distrust the petition then a People's Vote is the logical alternative...

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